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  1. 01-09-2022 01:33 PM #1
    Shironeko_Narunyan
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    Actually, it would look more like this
    /macroicon "Ruin"
    /hotbar change 7
    /hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Searing Light" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Energy Drain" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Summon Bahamut" 7 1 <wait.2>
    /hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.2>
    /hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Enkindle Bahamut" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.9>
    /hotbar change 8

    /macroicon "Summon Titan"
    /hotbar change 7
    /hotbar action "Summon Titan" 7 1 <wait.3>
    /hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.2>
    /hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.2>
    /hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar change 6

    /macroicon "Summon Garuda"
    /hotbar change 7
    /hotbar action "Summon Garuda" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Swiftcast" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.2>
    /hotbar action "Fester" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action Gemshine 7 1 <wait.6>
    /hotbar change 4

    /micon "Summon Ruby"
    /hotbar change 7
    /hotbar action "Summon Ruby" 7 1 <wait.2>
    /hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.3>
    /hotbar action "Ruin IV" 7 1 <wait.2>
    /hotbar action "Lucid Dreaming" 7 1 <wait.1>
    /hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.2>
    /hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.6>
    /hotbar change 3

    /hotbar change 5
    And it would work, but it would be subpar. A good thing for someone who (because of carpal tunnel or other conditions) can't deal with the hectic twitch-weaving some other classes have, but it would do a lot less damage than it could.
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  2. 01-09-2022 01:53 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
    Actually, it would look more like this

    And it would work, but it would be subpar. A good thing for someone who (because of carpal tunnel or other conditions) can't deal with the hectic twitch-weaving some other classes have, but it would do a lot less damage than it could.
    My point is that it, unfortunately does work. Surprisingly well. It's closer to optimal damage than you think, I literally used the macro in my original post in my in-game comparisons and ran through real content as well as striking dummy comparisons.

    No, it's not optimal, and I'm not making that argument. But the fact that the damage difference between a one-button macro and optimal manual play is a like 5-15% difference in DPS is problematic in my eyes. (Actual number by the way, average is ~8% difference from the few checks I've done. Gap widened in more movement-heavy content but it wasn't by much.)

    That low of a difference is what I dislike. There are plenty of optimizations you can do with macros to make it more optimal, but the point I'm making with this thread is that literally with a single, very simple copy-paste basic macro, you can perform the class at a mid-high level in the vast majority of content. That's too simple.
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  3. 01-09-2022 10:44 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
    Actually, it would look more like this

    And it would work, but it would be subpar. A good thing for someone who (because of carpal tunnel or other conditions) can't deal with the hectic twitch-weaving some other classes have, but it would do a lot less damage than it could.
    Fun fact, pressing a single button over several others is actually more harmful to the joints. Plus some of us have bought things to help us out with preventing joint-related injuries or at least alleviate it. So no, it's actually a bad thing and we're better off playing a class that doesn't have a single button to spam and requires more action.

    There's a reason why people who suffered from RSI need to stop once in a while and stretch their hands. It's literally in the name, Repetitive Strain Injury.
    Pressing a single button is very repetitive and I can tell, it hurts.
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  4. 01-10-2022 12:35 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riusvell View Post
    Fun fact, pressing a single button over several others is actually more harmful to the joints. Plus some of us have bought things to help us out with preventing joint-related injuries or at least alleviate it. So no, it's actually a bad thing and we're better off playing a class that doesn't have a single button to spam and requires more action.

    There's a reason why people who suffered from RSI need to stop once in a while and stretch their hands. It's literally in the name, Repetitive Strain Injury.
    Pressing a single button is very repetitive and I can tell, it hurts.
    Yeah, only that in case of the macros I posted, you press it once, that's not "repeatedly".
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