Thread: How to Summoner, 6.0 edition

I saw a comment someone made about how "New SMN is so simple you could probably just put it into a macro."

Unfortunately, they were correct:

/ac "Energy Drain" <t>
/ac "Fester" <t>
/ac "Searing Light" <me>
/ac "Summon Bahamut" <t>
/ac "Astral Flow" <t>
/ac "Gemshine" <t>
/ac "Enkindle Bahamut" <t>
/ac "Summon Ifrit II" <t>
/ac "Summon Titan II" <t>
/ac "Summon Garuda II" <t>
/ac "Ruin IV" <t>
/ac "Lucid Dreaming" <me>
/ac "Addle" <t>
/ac "Ruin III" <t>

So there you go aspiring 6.0 Summoners! Slap that bad boy on 1 and never have to think again!

In all seriousness, it's depressing how close to optimal dps this macro actually gets me. a full 2m rotation vs a striking dummy was about 733,000 damage doing it manually versus about 720,000 using this macro.

Obviously anyone using this macro would be missing small nuances like Addle timing, making the most out of your weaves to make sure you're not clipping into your GCD, fight-specific avatar order for optimization of movement-heavy fights or phases, phoenix regen going on anyone other than you, but the fact that I can actually unironically give this macro to people and it *actually works well for the most part* is a really unfortunate testament to the current state of SMN.

I've been a player since 1.0 and a SMN main since it dropped in 2.0, and I was one of the players who was honestly super excited for the 6.0 changes. I hated being poison mage™ and while I prefer FFXI's persistent avatar design over the series norm of 1-and-done moves, I understand the decision and I think 6.0 SMN's aesthetic feel is *way* better than the poison mage we used to be.

But I just don't get why we had to go from one of the most complex classes to the least complex class. I really, desperately hope that SE adds more nuance to the class soon (let us choose between phoenix/baha for our 60s stance, give us more avatars that share roles but are better for different things like phoenix being supportish and baha being damage, ANY kind of fucking other utility that makes me actually think about what I'm doing).

I don't think it'll happen given the track record, but I can hope. In the mean time, maybe if they start seeing an influx of players using a single button macro and doing really well with it, they'll rethink the simplicity of the class...

Lol, Funny enough I tried to macro so it would swap my Ruin3 with Gemshine and swap Outburst with Precious Brilliance when I cast Summon Ruby, Summon Topaz or Summon Emerald. Obviously I decided against it in the long run because no action queing for GCD's with a macro, but I honest to god don't get why those are separate buttons, they function exactly the same as the demi replace does. I mean they were obviously thinking about it "Ruin Mastery III" and "Outburst Mastery II" in the traits, I don't see why you would name it that unless your original intent was to replace Ruin and Outburst. Possibly some technical reasoning prevented it. Idk.

I don't mind the one and done thing, I don't even care dots are gone, I just wish there was ... some sort of choice or decisions to make besides "sticky feet or fast feet" and "Lots of things or one thing" lol

There's a guy on youtube who made a slightly more complex series of macros to try and compensate for the action queuing, though it's still one button. He got some pretty high rankings with it.

SPOILER LEVEL 83 TRIAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r3T1X0OXIU

Originally Posted by Rolder50

There's a guy on youtube who made a slightly more complex series of macros to try and compensate for the action queuing, though it's still one button. He got some pretty high rankings with it.

SPOILER LEVEL 83 TRIAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r3T1X0OXIU

I don't know if I should be impressed or depressed.

Originally Posted by VentVanitas

I don't know if I should be impressed or depressed.

Prob a little of both lol

Originally Posted by Rolder50

There's a guy on youtube who made a slightly more complex series of macros to try and compensate for the action queuing, though it's still one button. He got some pretty high rankings with it.

SPOILER LEVEL 83 TRIAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r3T1X0OXIU

This is hilarious!

Now you get to feel how it is doing the healer DPS rotation.

Actually, it would look more like this

/macroicon "Ruin"
/hotbar change 7
/hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Searing Light" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Energy Drain" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Summon Bahamut" 7 1 <wait.2>
/hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.2>
/hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Enkindle Bahamut" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Ruin" 7 1 <wait.9>
/hotbar change 8

/macroicon "Summon Titan"
/hotbar change 7
/hotbar action "Summon Titan" 7 1 <wait.3>
/hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.2>
/hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.2>
/hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar change 6

/macroicon "Summon Garuda"
/hotbar change 7
/hotbar action "Summon Garuda" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Swiftcast" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.2>
/hotbar action "Fester" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action Gemshine 7 1 <wait.6>
/hotbar change 4

/micon "Summon Ruby"
/hotbar change 7
/hotbar action "Summon Ruby" 7 1 <wait.2>
/hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.3>
/hotbar action "Ruin IV" 7 1 <wait.2>
/hotbar action "Lucid Dreaming" 7 1 <wait.1>
/hotbar action "Gemshine" 7 1 <wait.2>
/hotbar action "Astral Flow" 7 1 <wait.6>
/hotbar change 3

/hotbar change 5

And it would work, but it would be subpar. A good thing for someone who (because of carpal tunnel or other conditions) can't deal with the hectic twitch-weaving some other classes have, but it would do a lot less damage than it could.

Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan

Actually, it would look more like this

And it would work, but it would be subpar. A good thing for someone who (because of carpal tunnel or other conditions) can't deal with the hectic twitch-weaving some other classes have, but it would do a lot less damage than it could.

Fun fact, pressing a single button over several others is actually more harmful to the joints. Plus some of us have bought things to help us out with preventing joint-related injuries or at least alleviate it. So no, it's actually a bad thing and we're better off playing a class that doesn't have a single button to spam and requires more action.

There's a reason why people who suffered from RSI need to stop once in a while and stretch their hands. It's literally in the name, Repetitive Strain Injury.
Pressing a single button is very repetitive and I can tell, it hurts.

Originally Posted by Riusvell

Fun fact, pressing a single button over several others is actually more harmful to the joints. Plus some of us have bought things to help us out with preventing joint-related injuries or at least alleviate it. So no, it's actually a bad thing and we're better off playing a class that doesn't have a single button to spam and requires more action.

There's a reason why people who suffered from RSI need to stop once in a while and stretch their hands. It's literally in the name, Repetitive Strain Injury.
Pressing a single button is very repetitive and I can tell, it hurts.

Yeah, only that in case of the macros I posted, you press it once, that's not "repeatedly".