My issue with role quests

[grinkdaboy]

they were interesting from a narrative perspective and they helped tie up any loose ends for the various city states. and as of writing i've completed the melee, caster, tank, and soon healer role quests. the reason why i felt like it was pointless was because i kept thinking to myself: "why do i need to be a certain role for this?"

now that's not to say role quests were a complete wash and are bad, i just think that locking them to specific roles serves no purpose from a narrative perspective and just feels sort of arbitrary

[DrWho2010]

well the ranged physical role quest specifically has a blasphemy that can fly and is pretty speedy so they wanted someone for their ranged attack ability.

[Krotoan]

The point of role quests is a "brush up" on your responsibilities as that role. Tanks gotta tank, healers gotta heal and cleanse, DPS gotta damage and interrupt and do mechanics.

The stories are nice little additions to characters we got involved with long ago.

The story is there to make the brush up interesting, not for the purpose of being a story for that particular role.

[TaleraRistain]

You are needed for actual healing in the healer role quest at the final fight. But I think with that one there's also a metaphysical meaning. You're helping to heal the hurts of a nation and of a certain NPC. The ranged involves a flying mob and they specifically ask for someone ranged who can fight it, though that doesn't come into play in the final fight and that was a loss I think.

I'm on the last quest of caster and haven't seen anything particular to that role. For tank, I can think of the time she has you accompany her to talk to people in the "Big tough tank" type of role to lend credence to her words to have faith and that things would get better. I haven't finished that yet to see the final fight. Just started melee.

I do think there are some links to the roles, but they can definitely make that clearer and more defined in the future if they want to continue this route.

[Avidria]

I've only done melee so far and saw absolutely no reason I needed to be melee beyond it being convenient setup for the characters involved. It felt more like a leadership sim than anything, which honestly felt like it'd work more for a tank, but I also haven't done the tank quest yet so. Take that as you will.

[Dewslam]

I've only done melee so far and saw absolutely no reason I needed to be melee beyond it being convenient setup for the characters involved. It felt more like a leadership sim than anything, which honestly felt like it'd work more for a tank, but I also haven't done the tank quest yet so. Take that as you will.

Yeah I think you only even fight anything in like two of the melee DPS role quests.

[TheMightyMollusk]

They make a degree of sense if you think about the class and job guilds in each of the city-states. Gridania has no tanks, Ul'dah and Ala Mhigo have no healers, Limsa has no publicly acknowledged melee (the Rogues' Guild is an open secret, everyone knows but they're still more of a black ops group), and Ishgard has no casters. They're looking to fill in the missing gap in the party. Doma just kinda gets the last leftover role.

[Tracewood]

They make a degree of sense if you think about the class and job guilds in each of the city-states. Gridania has no tanks, Ul'dah and Ala Mhigo have no healers, Limsa has no publicly acknowledged melee (the Rogues' Guild is an open secret, everyone knows but they're still more of a black ops group), and Ishgard has no casters. They're looking to fill in the missing gap in the party. Doma just kinda gets the last leftover role.

Doma is also lacking healers until the very last quest, which I have to say is a very good fit for you-know-who.

Also the healer one was pretty engaging with another troubled NPC and it gives some much needed character development.

Part of me has to wonder if they're setting up the new crop of Trusts for 7.0 and the saga that comes with it.

[Sicno]

Yes, I also felt that save for some very specific scenes these role quests have barely any reason to be locked to a role.

well the ranged physical role quest specifically has a blasphemy that can fly and is pretty speedy so they wanted someone for their ranged attack ability.

It says so on the description banner of the initial quest, but it's barely brought up during the actual questline. Not to mention in the actual battle with the blasphemy...

...you fight it at ground level, along with some melee npcs hitting it next to you. In a closed space. And no, we didn't do anythng to "bring it down" either. Your contribution as a ranged dps is "being able to use interrupts". It could have perfectly been a tank quest.

and Ishgard has no casters.

Just because they don't have some guilds open for us to train in their disciplines doesn't mean they don't have those roles within their ranks. And the jobs that ARE open to us are very... "peculiar" within their society. There's plenty of casters in Ishgard. You can go do The Vault sometime if you need a refresher. And don't forget Ser Charizard.

[TaleraRistain]

Part of me has to wonder if they're setting up the new crop of Trusts for 7.0 and the saga that comes with it.

Ranged quest especially felt that way.