Final Fantasy 14 Players trying WOW?

[HollowedDoll]

If you're interest is purely in a story perspective I can safely tell you it isn't worth it. A fair amount of the story isn't even the game and exists outside it in the form of comics and novels... which there are 22 in the WoW part of it, but an extra 7 if you want the stuff that came before WoW, so 29 in total. And some of those; I believe.. I could be wrong, are no longer canon so good luck on that front.

Then their Chronicle set of books which was supposed to canonize everything was changed up and said to be written by a race in the game and could be inaccurate... yeah.

If you're looking for gameplay, music, another world to explore, if the art style piques your interest. Then certainly give it a try.

But I can't stress this enough, if you're looking for story look not to WoW for it. Unless you enjoy your adventures with cork board and string like a conspirator nut case (no offense intended to those people).

More like they retcon their lore every other expansion for some minor tidbit, characters get forgotten left and right and so on. Chronicles literally condradicts itself in the next volume so it's kind of a joke, really.
X sent some people to become part of Y, No no you see X never even knew about Y at all

[DPZ2]

And also keep in mind that the game has evolved over 17 years, and they have not retroactively fixed everything, so there are continuity issues, and you may be confused about the overall plot when you start from scratch.

This is a feature of World of Warcraft. The continuity issues are exacerbated by the desire of Blizzard to tell their story outside of game. And I mean if you don't read the books that come out with any given expansio, you may be downright confused.

At the end of the Mists of Panderia expansion the final boss is captured, and a trial (with punishment) is greatly implied. Out comes Warlords of Draenor and, surprise! Said final boss escaped and we have to follow them. Again. How did this happen? you ask? The explanation can be purchased at your local bookstore for a mere $26.00.

You may also find yourself a bit outside the loop for a number of things. You do not get to defeat that final boss in the next expansion. Oh no. Can't have your character do anything like that to the Named NPCs. So, don't expect to go into this game thinking you're the Warrior of Light or anything, because, when push comes to shove, you are nothing more than expendable fodder for the story, not even the main side-kick of the protagonist. Well, because there isn't a single protagonist. The colorful Cast of Characters make the Scions look like pikers.

This comment is from someone who held the Lorekeeper titles (plural) from Wrath, when it meant you managed to go through all 2000+ available quests on both Horde and Alliance.

The books were entertaining, but the developers depended too much on them and the lore books that Blizzard also sold for 'backstory'. Also, the books were apparently thrown away when the entire WoW Universe was retconned to death in the current expansion. I know a number of ex-players that want to believe the Warlords expansion was only a nightmare, and they'll wake up like Pam, with Bobby in that shower, towards the end of the Dallas TV series.

Go on, play the game. I doubt Blizzard has ripped the story entirely to shreds in the early leveling areas. They were still pretty decent through Mists of Panderia, only becoming weirder as time went on.

I'd try out the free Starter Edition first, just so you can figure out if you like this game or not. Apparently, you only need to pay a monthly fee to get all of the expansions except the current one. And be prepared for a 77 gigabyte download, and being tied to Blizzards Battle.net login utility.

[CyanTea]

Compiled my own server back in the day to check the Burning Crusade as Internet was ridiculously expensive almost 2 decades ago. Everything was pretty much broken, but it was a fairly enjoyable and at the time unique experience, so to speak.

As for my misadventures in the somewhat "modern" WoW. I tried Legion for about a month few years ago. Didn't get to try any raids properly, but I've managed to get a couple of characters to the maximum level. Suffice it to say, in my opinion FFXIV does just about everything better.

To be honest, I can't remember anything about what was going on plot-wise but:
The combat felt spastic, "unimpactful" and in general lacked any interesting mechanics. There were also these gaps in the "rotations" of some melee classes when you can't use any skills and have to just auto-attack which I didn't like at all. I played as a Priest, Death Knight, and (?)Demon Hunter(?).

The dungeons, while not being "corridors" like in this game, felt like Praetorium before unskippable cutscenes, i.e. speedraces - and were pretty much ruined by the "rushy" and dare I say toxic playerbase. I remember getting kicked without any warning (unless somebody needs to ask you to kill yourself - nobody talks in that game) for not being able to keep up or getting lost quite a few times. Hehehe!

With the PvP I had some fun, I guess, but it wasn't really that much better as in this game as people claim. Sure, there are more mods and maps to choose but that's pretty much it. And the "world-PvP" was completely obnoxious, as for the most part, it boiled down to a maximum level player swooping down out of nowhere, 1-hit killing your character, then spamming /sit emote and preventing a proper respawn. Heck, at some point I had to resort to grinding 1 dungeon for at least ~10 levels because questing was impossible because of this.

Music too was lackluster and consisted primarily out of le epic gamer choir orchestral doots which I personally detest with a passion and some soundscape'ish ambient.

...And, well, western aesthetics are not my thing in general.

[PaulH]

I resurrected my EQ2 account and am playing a Coercer (mana feeder) which so far is fun. It has aged but its f2p and possible game gap is being filled I forgot things really do have a longer aggro range.

[DPZ2]

I'd try out the free Starter Edition first, just so you can figure out if you like this game or not.

Well, that was entertaining, for a few hours at least. Tried the Horde side free intro. It's much better at telling you what the buttons do, takes you through some nice areas that are not actually part of the original game, and then dumps you in, um, Battle for Azeroth? Not going to lie, it's as good an introduction to every DPS-specialization of every class as you can get. Just don't expect it to explain how your Priest heals during combat.

So, Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King, Cataclysm, Mists of Panderia, Warlords of Draenor and Legion might as well not exist. Level 10 Priest with 2 minutes of "welcome to your new specialization" gets dumped into the Wonders of Battle for Azeroth.

From scrub recruit during the few hours of quest lines on "starting area where you were washed ashore" (a trope found in more than one MMORPG these days) to Champion of the Horde! after a few cut scenes once you're out of that area.

At least it makes the Classic game worth considering, just to get some kind of background about "who is this Warchief?" and "Why does she show up in the latest expansion video that you watch after logging in, before you create a character?"

I don't know if I'd have played for 10 years with that swift of a change-over. Love what they did with the Trust dungeon at the end of that introductory story line, but I've always felt a bit over-the-top as a [Shadow] Priest in WoW anyway ... the big bad "it'll take 3 of you to take this mini-boss out" just took a few minutes of my time. Alone. Hurray for healers with shields?

Do give it a try. Just don't look for a particularly in-depth story, nor a clue as to what really happens next (and why).

[Miles064]

Well, that was entertaining, for a few hours at least. Tried the Horde side free intro. It's much better at telling you what the buttons do, takes you through some nice areas that are not actually part of the original game, and then dumps you in, um, Battle for Azeroth? Not going to lie, it's as good an introduction to every DPS-specialization of every class as you can get. Just don't expect it to explain how your Priest heals during combat.

So, Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King, Cataclysm, Mists of Panderia, Warlords of Draenor and Legion might as well not exist. Level 10 Priest with 2 minutes of "welcome to your new specialization" gets dumped into the Wonders of Battle for Azeroth.

From scrub recruit during the few hours of quest lines on "starting area where you were washed ashore" (a trope found in more than one MMORPG these days) to Champion of the Horde! after a few cut scenes once you're out of that area.

At least it makes the Classic game worth considering, just to get some kind of background about "who is this Warchief?" and "Why does she show up in the latest expansion video that you watch after logging in, before you create a character?"

I don't know if I'd have played for 10 years with that swift of a change-over. Love what they did with the Trust dungeon at the end of that introductory story line, but I've always felt a bit over-the-top as a [Shadow] Priest in WoW anyway ... the big bad "it'll take 3 of you to take this mini-boss out" just took a few minutes of my time. Alone. Hurray for healers with shields?

Do give it a try. Just don't look for a particularly in-depth story, nor a clue as to what really happens next (and why).

That sounds like something odd with the starter edition. Each race(well some share) has a starting area that would start in cata(vanilla wow revamp) areas. The undead starter area has you coming out of a tomb after just being raised and being introduced to the Forsaken for example. Once you beat that area, you can then go to the main city and while it does default to WoD for some reason a gnome named Chromie should let you pick which expac to go into from that point. If you pick burning crusade it will then prompt you with a starter quest that leads you to outlands(BC area) and you can quest from there. You can pick from any of the expacs(but again picking "classic" or w/e it is called will be the cata revamped zones, not the og vanilla zones) which also determines what dungeons you get pulled from from the dungeon finder.

Full warning though. The story is in-depth but it isn't forced on you so it can be missed for the stuff that is in game. A good chunk of some of the later background events also happen in books which is super lame if you care about the story.

[OtakuSempai]

So not played WOW yet.....

There has been migration from WOW to FFXIV but wondered if anyone had tried the other way (though i wont migrate)

I have been for a while a casual a FFXIV player and have been active since 1.0 and not looking to stop playing as have a ton of memorabilia, happy times in game and been to a 14 fan fest and even Eorzean Symphony so a 10+ year investment. I am happy with the game but I do feel I want to try other things and thought I would try WOW. I tried GW2 and ESO and wasn't overly keen and did play EQ2 in the past.

Cannot change the title but any other mmorpgs people can recommend i like dot classes/necromancer style? I dont think I want to pay to support anything

I have read threads of WOW abut the community and company. I just wondered if there are any people who have actually tried the game in 2021/2022 and if its any good?. The warlock dot class looks like something I would try and I suppose there is WOW classic. Are there any EU based servers that are well known for 30/40 year old players. I am PVE player than PVP so any thoughts anytips always welcome?

I would reason to assume most commenters here haven't bothered to play the game for any reasonable amount of time and are mostly parroting what everyone is saying on forums, Reddit, etc.

FFXIV is a superior game in most aspects and yes WoW is a second job if you play at endgame and want to play it like the devs intended. However as a means to broaden your horizons and get an idea how FFXIV can even improve, I highly recommend giving it a shot in the short term.

WoW does tanking and healing FAR better than ffxiv and if you enjoy those roles, you may actually really enjoy your time there.

A lot of this community lives in a huge bubble and thinks this game should be, and only can be, a certain way because I suspect a lot of the playerbase has only played one mmo. Branching out to WoW will give you a new perspective and maybe even make you a know well rounded player imo.

[MoofiaBossVal]

So not played WOW yet.....

There has been migration from WOW to FFXIV but wondered if anyone had tried the other way (though i wont migrate)

I browse the WoW forums and fan forums.

WoW players do not care about FFXIV. You barely see anyone say "I'm leaving for WoW!", and if someone does say that then maybe 1 or 2 people reply ande say "well good for you", shrug, and move on with their lives. FFXIV has very little appeal to WoW players.

It's the FFXIV community that has an inferiority complex to WoW and can't stop mentioning it in every other breath.

[EzekielBook]

Do give it a try. Just don't look for a particularly in-depth story, nor a clue as to what really happens next (and why).

That's part of the new design philosophy. Blizzard feels that more players want to play with their friends first, so they rush you through the BfA expansion (where the individual storylines kinda hold together, but not within an overall arc), to get you to the current content. You can be in the latest expansion fairly easily that way.

Up until then, you would go to lvl 1 in the original starting area, and start from there.

Once a new player gets a character to lvl 50, any new characters can start in the original leveling area. Nowadays though, leveling happens so fast that you're in the latest content fairly quickly. It makes FF look like an impossible slog.

[DPZ2]

Once a new player gets a character to lvl 50, any new characters can start in the original leveling area. Nowadays though, leveling happens so fast that you're in the latest content fairly quickly. It makes FF look like an impossible slog.

It's not a feature I appreciate at this point. 14 years of story line goes out the windows for more-or-less easy leveling straight into the end game. Why not just rewrite the entire thing, start from scratch with a new MMO? It's a cheap way to use up the good will generated over the years without actually doing anything ... and it forces players to pay for the expansion as well as the monthly subscription to see "what happens next" far too early.