Has the WoW crowd taken over now?

[Hatfright]

PF looks like this everytime a new fight comes out, it's nothing new.
If you're not comfortable with such requirements, make your own party or wait the hype to die out.

[Hysterior]

These types of PFs have always been there...

[Silica-chan]

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now.

Outside of the clear dps number I saw all of those back in ARR 2.3

Just create your own PF Group and ignore the ones with these (imo) overtuned demands.

[Vyrerus]

Yeah, there were already a lot of WoW players even back in 2.0. They have always approached things differently.

But with that in mind, PF has never changed (it didn't used to exist, even). There's always some absurd requirement and people are always crappy to one another in PUGs. Sometimes in statics too. People suck, so hang onto the good ones you find.

[SargentToughie]

Nope. These types of people have always been playing the game, nothing new to see here.

Skip Soar or Disband was a huge meme in Heavensward for exactly this reason.

[Mortime]

The word you're looking for is "Jerks".. have elitest JERKS taken over?

No, I'm pretty sure Ion Hazzikostas and the elitist jerks guild are still on WoW. At least there hasn't been any information about then coming over to FF14.

[Ama_Luna]

Going through PF the last couple days, I see lots of “advertising” like:

“4k dps = instakick”
“no clowns please”
“2 fails = kick”
“know what to do there will be no talk or stay out”
“I’m doing this for 2 days please no more failures”

Generally stuff I would typically expect to see in WoW, also noticed a harshening of tone in duties like alliance raids.

It’s sad that the same thing has arrived here now.

I haven't done party finder at all recently. I was looking forward to trying the new savage, but most party finder descriptions are like what you posted. It's really disgusting. I only saw a single one so far that was chill. Yet no one would join. It's a huge joke that there were even party finder ads telling people to know the mechs when it hadn't even been out for 5 hours.

[Comfort]

It actually gets pretty tiring seeing "WoW players" blamed for anything and everything that can be pegged on them.

Do you feel like a super cool kid for joining in?

[SargentToughie]

It actually gets pretty tiring seeing "WoW players" blamed for anything and everything that can be pegged on them.

Do you feel like a super cool kid for joining in?

WoW players have been a spooky scary skeleton dancing under the bed of XIV players for about 6 years now. If you take everything at face value, you'd think WoW players were responsible for every cat stuck up a tree in this community.

Very very "us vs them" in a way that reminds me of some troubling real life problems. Makes me sad, even though I've never touched WoW.

[Makeda]

People have always expected you to know more about the fights the closer they are to having been released - in a sort of reverse of what makes logical sense.

As we go on, requirements tend to get more lax. In part this is because the "I want to be first or best or ahead of the pack" people are all in there right now, and a more casual set gets in there later.

But yeah - report the fool mentioning a DPS check.

As others noted, it's always been this way. I was getting kicked out of Eden 1 savage groups in week 1 for not already knowing the mechanics.
Even got recruited to one Eden 1 Savage static as a dancer, then told to switch to white mage while the 'ready check' was sitting on my screen, which I had told the person I had no idea how to play in a raid in our first conversation... and then kicked when I didn't know how to heal it... (and in that case I got in as Dancer because I'd had dancer up through phase 2 already, so was ready to go... so whatever...)

For the first month or so, you will get people who expect everyone to have already been farming it up to phase 23 in other groups before you joined them, who will have little patience, and who will be kicking people right as those people actually do learn, only to be stuck recruiting another person that has to start the learning all over again...

If you're not already in a premade static, it's likely less stressful to just wait for the "casuals" to show up, and get some casual players who are will to tolerate wipes together and learn together.