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    Does no one realize that with the ability reasignment, you'll generate Esprit faster, meaning more Saber Dances, which is an overall boost to potency.

    Now I'm not saying additionally boost might not be needed. But this adjustment is just a mild boost until they see savage numbers, or get more data. I mean just look at the SMN changes, they boosted the potency of the Phoenix phase because it was weaker than the Bahamut phase, but nothing else changed, when theoretically some of the other spells should of changed as well.

    Remember not all potency boosts are direct buffs to a skill, some are passive adjustment, like a CD adjustment or gauge generation, which is what the DNC buff is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Does no one realize that with the ability reasignment, you'll generate Esprit faster, meaning more Saber Dances, which is an overall boost to potency.

    Now I'm not saying additionally boost might not be needed. But this adjustment is just a mild boost until they see savage numbers, or get more data. I mean just look at the SMN changes, they boosted the potency of the Phoenix phase because it was weaker than the Bahamut phase, but nothing else changed, when theoretically some of the other spells should of changed as well.

    Remember not all potency boosts are direct buffs to a skill, some are passive adjustment, like a CD adjustment or gauge generation, which is what the DNC buff is.
    No one "realizes" what you say because it isn't true. Since 6.0 DNC themselves only generates Esprit from basic combo GCDs and their procs. It is no longer "Any weaponskill".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    No one "realizes" what you say because it isn't true. Since 6.0 DNC themselves only generates Esprit from basic combo GCDs and their procs. It is no longer "Any weaponskill".
    Esprit still has the random chance of +10 generation off of your Dance Partner’s weaponskill/spell usage; as well as the party-wide Technical Finish Esprit. It just also has the additional benefit of +5 for your basic combo skills and procs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Esprit still has the random chance of +10 generation off of your Dance Partner’s weaponskill/spell usage; as well as the party-wide Technical Finish Esprit. It just also has the additional benefit of +5 for your basic combo skills and procs.
    Yes. But it has no bearing on Tech and Standard finish being Weaponskills or Abilities. You won't get any Esprit from them regardless. None of your own GCDs generate Esprit randomly anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Yes. But it has no bearing on Tech and Standard finish being Weaponskills or Abilities. You won't get any Esprit from them regardless. None of your own GCDs generate Esprit randomly anymore.
    I know. Was just responding because it sounded like you might have forgotten the DP mechanic in your response based on the way it was worded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    No one "realizes" what you say because it isn't true. Since 6.0 DNC themselves only generates Esprit from basic combo GCDs and their procs. It is no longer "Any weaponskill".
    Then I am mistaken. I thought the new generation was per weaponskill, not just the combo. My mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Does no one realize that with the ability reasignment, you'll generate Esprit faster, meaning more Saber Dances, which is an overall boost to potency.

    Now I'm not saying additionally boost might not be needed. But this adjustment is just a mild boost until they see savage numbers, or get more data. I mean just look at the SMN changes, they boosted the potency of the Phoenix phase because it was weaker than the Bahamut phase, but nothing else changed, when theoretically some of the other spells should of changed as well.

    Remember not all potency boosts are direct buffs to a skill, some are passive adjustment, like a CD adjustment or gauge generation, which is what the DNC buff is.
    This is untrue. "Espirit" and "Enhanced Espirit" traits specifically state the names of the attacks that generate Espirit, and finishes are not among those names. The 6.05 changes are STRICTLY a buff to reapers and monks through arcane whatever and brotherhood chakras.

    Square buffing dragoon, ninja, and summoner potency so that they compete within their respective roles, and leaving dancer to be yalms below bard with machinist kind of suffering in the middle as well is just negligence. There's no reason to close the gap on melee/casters and leave phys range so poorly tuned. It's just poor development, and should be called out.
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    Last edited by Mysticunicycle; 01-08-2022 at 04:29 AM.

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    Just posting here to show my support for DNC potency increase. Very surprised and disappointed it wasn't buffed at 6.05..
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    Hoping potency buffs asap for DNC and MCH!! Devs dropped the ball on this.
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    Last edited by Lorie; 01-08-2022 at 07:37 PM.

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