Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 39
  1. #11
    Player
    Baxcel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Posts
    550
    Character
    Baxcel Farshot
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I swear if you DPS mains get us Tank mains gapclosers changed there will be riots!!

    But in all seriousness I prefer throwing my gap closer into my damage rotation, I'm not using it for anything else in most fight, including savage.. if I needed the extra movement that much I'd pop sprint.. besides using the gap closer on GNB was just about the only thing I could do as the rest of the kit was mostly GCDs
    (0)

  2. #12
    Player
    Rongway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    4,160
    Character
    Cyrillo Rongway
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    Maybe i didn't say correctly, i meant pretty much on occasion of when i have full stacks and because now most of the movement tools have 2 stacks or 3 like Warrior, you gotta use 1 to get the cooldown going but regardless i hate that for damage purposes.
    But, as Seraphor said, that's the point. If there were no charges it would be worse because you would have to use them exactly when they finish cooling down, every time, to maximize their damage contribution and you would never use them for the movement. Giving them charges lets you actually use them for the movement if you need to.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    No. En Avant is the best gap-closer IMO given its simplicity. It's always there when you want to use it, not there to be weaved into your damage and then be missing in an emergency.
    That's some strange reasoning, considering rangers are the most mobile role in the game even without movement actions, and they would be the least inconvenienced by having to use movement actions on cooldown for their damage.
    (4)
    Error 3102 Club, Order of the 52nd Hour

  3. #13
    Player
    Jettinson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2021
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    792
    Character
    Ivan Moondiver
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    But, as Seraphor said, that's the point. If there were no charges it would be worse because you would have to use them exactly when they finish cooling down, every time, to maximize their damage contribution and you would never use them for the movement. Giving them charges lets you actually use them for the movement if you need to.
    I know but that's also why i prefer Thunderclap over other stuff. You both explained it well and made the point, i just can't enjoy that in general.
    (1)

  4. #14
    Player
    icrot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    92
    Character
    Rovam Lumdaris
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    No. En Avant is the best gap-closer IMO given its simplicity. It's always there when you want to use it, not there to be weaved into your damage and then be missing in an emergency.
    Shukuchi is the superior 'gap closer'. It's so easy to move around the arena with that thing
    (0)

  5. #15
    Player
    RobynDaBank's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    Wraeclast
    Posts
    1,521
    Character
    Hope Sunflame
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    That's some strange reasoning, considering rangers are the most mobile role in the game even without movement actions, and they would be the least inconvenienced by having to use movement actions on cooldown for their damage.
    Ranger? I think you mean DNC. I've had my narrow moments, most recently in the Rabanastre alliance raids with vast arenas.

    Quote Originally Posted by icrot View Post
    Shukuchi is the superior 'gap closer'. It's so easy to move around the arena with that thing
    Don't you need to place that one though?
    (0)
    Mortal Fist

  6. #16
    Player
    Shurrikhan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    12,830
    Character
    Tani Shirai
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Ranger?
    He's referring to the role. Ranged Physical -> Rangers.
    (2)

  7. #17
    Player
    Recon1o6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    1,296
    Character
    Avarnia Corthal
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    I quite like having potency on my mobility tools

    As someone who always prefers to move rather than eat an aoe, the doing damage part to rengage is nice. Not to mention i can toss it in a burst window if its got spare stacks. You only need 1 gap closer at a time
    (0)

  8. #18
    Player
    icrot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    92
    Character
    Rovam Lumdaris
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Don't you need to place that one though?
    That's why I said 'gap closer' and not gap closer.

    It was just a joke, I love that skill.
    (0)

  9. #19
    Player
    Rongway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    4,160
    Character
    Cyrillo Rongway
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    rangers
    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Ranger?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    He's referring to the role. Ranged Physical -> Rangers.
    Yes, that.

    Quote Originally Posted by icrot View Post
    Shukuchi is the superior 'gap closer'. It's so easy to move around the arena with that thing
    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Don't you need to place that one though?
    A note about Shukuchi with no judgment as to its quality vs other movement actions:
    You can use the new gtoff argument to use it with a single click/press. It will target your mouse cursor location immediately without waiting for confirmation, and if you have the ground target limit range option on, gtoff will respect this and activate at max distance if your mouse cursor is too far away.
    Code:
    /ac Shukuchi gtoff
    (3)
    Last edited by Rongway; 01-06-2022 at 08:02 PM.
    Error 3102 Club, Order of the 52nd Hour

  10. #20
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    4,620
    Character
    Seraphor Vhinasch
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Shukuchi is so much easier to use with the new ground targetting options, the only problem is you need to go in and turn those options on as for some ridiculous reason they're not default.
    (1)

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast