***SPOILERS*** Question about the very last cutscene ***SPOILERS***

[Lium]

After exiting The Rising Stones for the very last time and chatting with the Scions, the WoL catches a glimpse of Meteion flying off, presumably to explore the world, similar to Alpha.

My question is, isn't Meteion a potentially world-ending threat with massive power? I know she's back to being more or less a sweet, innocent child (I guess?) with the death of the Endsinger, but she is still a being that is driven and manipulated by dynamis unless I missed something, which is entirely possible. I feel like the WoL should be keeping tabs on her, or at least have someone or some organization keep track of her.

Because in a way, Etheirys is just as bleak as the universe with various cultures and peoples clashing against each other and hating each other. The utopic world Meteion knew 12,000 years ago no longer exists. What's going to happen when she discovers how messed up and fractured the star has become?

[Lersayil]

In random bullet points:

We've convinced her to change over to blue hope birb, even when faced with bad vibes.

Her power level was mostly due to her numbers she had in her hivemind. We've basically killed off all but one at the end. In singular form shes probably a non-threat.

Its implied its her, but never outright stated. By the flow of conversation its possible she died some time shortly before /during we returned from Ultima Thule, and its just a random or metaphorical birb at the end.

[MoofiaBossVal]

After wiping out the rest of the universe and spending tens of thousands of years crusading against Etheirys, she is the biggest mass murderer in the history of ever. We shanked people for less. Yes, there is nothing stopping her from flying to the edge of the universe and stirring up the dynamis of the universe against Etheirys again, and she might not even have the tracking spell Venat placed upon her anymore so if she does that then the heroes would never be able to find her (unless they can science how dynamis works and figure out where the dynamis is being stirred up from).

[Veloran]

She said that after the "Song of Hope" she would never raise her voice again, so I assume she either passed away or has simply made a vow of silence to never manipulate Dynamis again.

[KariTheFox]

It's important to remember that the Meteion that we interacted with both in Elpis and after the Endsinger battle was a component of a hivemind that had her free will suppressed by the collective. Any time she was able to act under her own agency she would plead with the gestalt meteion to leave us alone, and begged us to protect the people she loved from her sisters.

Is she morally culpable for the actions of her sisters? I lean towards no. As for the bird in the ending cutscene, I think it's largely up to interpretation. Though I like to think in some way a hopeful, benevolent meteion is watching the people of Ethyris now.

[Theozilla]

Well first of all, we don't even know if that Starbird in the final cutscenes is literally meant to be Meteion, it could just be meant to be symbolic of her, like the Hume boy at the end of 5.0 ShadowBringers (the one who asks the WoLD how we got to be so strong) who resembles a young Ardbert (but we know is not him reincarnated); especially since it is strongly implied that Meteion died after the defeat of Endsinger, as indicated by her dialogue such as these:

Greetings... You who are my final encounter...

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Thank you for guiding me here. To find these words at journey's end fills me with joy.

And so, before I fall forever silent, there is one thing I must do.

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But if you would allow it, I would sing one last song.

That, combined with the ending illustration of Meteion reuniting with Hermes, I think all indicates we are meant to understand that Meteion has died by the end of Endwalker 6.0 MSQ, and that the Starbird we see is just symbolic of Meteion and not literally her.


But even then, let's hypothetically say that the Starbird is Meteion; the point of the WoL's final interaction with Meteion is that she's learned "to walk" (i.e. learning to cope with living, being able to overcome despair, etc.) thanks to the WoL, and is no longer a threat to all of life in the universe any longer.

But as I stated, I am pretty sure Meteion is dead, and that final cutscene Starbird isn't meant to literally be her.

[Lersayil]

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Is she morally culpable for the actions of her sisters? I lean towards no.
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Now there's a controversial discussion waiting to happen. Did I miss the flaming threads discussing this, or did it just fly under the radar? Personally I would also lean no, but for different reasons (really, its all Hermes' fault).

[sidurgu-12]

Now there's a controversial discussion waiting to happen. Did I miss the flaming threads discussing this, or did it just fly under the radar? Personally I would also lean no, but for different reasons (really, its all Hermes' fault).

hermes is the ultimate hypocritical villain this expansion. When he didn't get the answer he wanted he urged the hivemind to end it all.

[Cleretic]

hermes is the ultimate hypocritical villain this expansion. When he didn't get the answer he wanted he urged the hivemind to end it all.

I might have to rewatch the cutscene, but I don't think he so much 'urged it' as 'agreed with it'. Which is still GROSSLY terrible, but 'inventing the concept of omnicide' is rather a worse crime than just thinking it sounds like a good idea.

[MagiusNecros]

I think Meteion is still alive. No poof no die. Seems subject to interpretation.