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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletL1995 View Post
    This is Yoshi literally comparing the most popular 3rd party program to a calculator or Excel spreadsheet.
    His stance on ACT is that of a gamer and he understands it's "not" cheating. It hasn't been the first time he has to mention the grey area of that specific application.
    This doesn't translate to actual cheaters using other programs at all.
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    His stance on ACT is that of a gamer and he understands it's "not" cheating. It hasn't been the first time he has to mention the grey area of that specific application.
    This doesn't translate to actual cheaters using other programs at all.
    It does in the fact that bad/lazy people will always exist. It the age old discussion of gun ownership. One side says that bad guys kill with guns while the other side says that it's a defensive tool at worst and a hobby at best. Bad apples will always exist, too bad they dictate what everyone has, or doesn't, have access to. Personally, I think there should be a basic IQ test for anyone casting a vote for city/municipal issues so that the only ones who cast a vote actually has a handle on what they are voting for. It isn't gonna happen though. 3rd party tools are in the same situation, though you have to ask how it's personally hampering your own personal gameplay. Besides, no game is going to be free of 3rd party tools, discord and parsers will always exist as long as you provide numbers locally. I wonder if SE will go full EA though and introduce a ring zero rootkit into the game, you know, for security! lol
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    Bull Kathos
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    The entire premise of this thread is really confusing, even without taking into account the swapping between XIVAlexander and XIVLauncher.

    In my experience there is an exceedingly small portion of the game's total population that has any real moral stance on third party tools, and to fit into that group you need to both be competing in endgame content and not be using any of these tools yourself. That... doesn't describe that many people, least of all the people that you see here complaining about the existence of something like NoClippy.

    In what way does a random DRG being able to double weave with a High Jump or any other thing made possible by a third party tool impact you if you aren't in competition with them as a player? At that point, if you really care about competing you'll likely even the playing field in any way you're able to - this has been part of the proliferation of third party tools throughout the high end raid community.

    If you happen to be a high end raider who completely abstains from third party tools, by all means the floor is yours and your complaints are valid. They're moot, but you're entitled to the soapbox.

    At the end of the day SE isn't some boogeyman out to ban people, they're a company that would like to keep their giant money printer running. As long as these tools aren't causing significant hardship to any players (and to be clear, they are not) there won't be any action taken against using them because to do so would be bad business. You can say what you like about SE as a company, but they're good businesspeople who know clearly understand how to cultivate and maintain a fanbase who will fork over money for whatever they put out - and I don't even mean that in a disparaging way, as I count myself amongst those fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    What the title says. I just found out that it literally tells you things in the game that you shouldn't know prior. For example. WHen you do the Gold Saucer Mini Cactpot, it will LIGHT UP the ones you want to click for the highest reward... That's absurd.

    Further. If any contest comes back like the Firmament, it will literally tell these people what to use each step to get the best quality. It can also adjust their ping to be near zero, allowing them to hit skills/nodes much faster than others. This doesn't need to be allowed and there has got to be a way to detect it. Clearly it's reading something in the game files to allow it to tell you what buttons on the mini cact you wanna click. Which is against ToS.
    umm, i think you got the names mixed up
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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    Werent you a Hrothgar before too? Join the chadlander utopia bro
    I had to fantasia out after getting tired of getting "UwU" tells from furry degenerates
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    I had to fantasia out after getting tired of getting "UwU" tells from furry degenerates
    And then you switched to Lalafell.
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