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  1. #11
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    Lecru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    That's not XIValex that's XLauncher.
    And honestly that's such an inoffensive plugin to complain about. There's a website that has been doing the exact same thing long before the plugin was even a thing.
    Show me a website that reads what's on screen and tells you exactly what to press IN THE MOMENT and not while you're working on something. If you're also referring to crafts. No. You're also wrong as EXPERT crafts for Firmament were always random on what you needed to do and Macro's would not work.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    "The only way the GMs/STF would be able to detect the use of Alexander (or any third-party program) would be to install a separate software onto a player’s computer that scans each of XIV’s files and the computer’s system for these tools and/or any modifications. However, this sort of software is illegal in a lot of countries (including Japan, last I checked), and with this being a global game, SE attempting to attach it to XIV would be impossible.
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    "

    Scanning the GAME FILES is legal. Anything outside of that is not. And to my knowledge, XIV Alexander would have to be installed IN the game files to read the data going on on screen.
    It’s actually not. In EU countries, installing these “anti-cheat” softwares that behave like rootkits is illegal. Aside from the privacy concerns involved, rootkits themselves can have various other side-effects on your system. Software like this that has been incorporated into other games has faced huge amounts of backlash from playerbases.
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  3. #13
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    Veranolth's Avatar
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    Veranolth Dawnglimmer
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Not going to lie isn't moding just one of the many benefits if PC gaming? When did it become so vilified? I mean competitive integrity is a stance I can see but it is not like FFXIV has prize pools going. So for the most part it is for personal fulfillment, if someone wants to cheapen that experience so be it. If they want to lie about it and try to get into public eye if they do not have the ability to back up their lies they will be found out rather quickly. If they do it just to flex how does that hurt anyone really?

    So what exactly is the problem.
    Gives an unfair advantage to PC players. Meanwhile, console players don't get to use such things.
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  4. #14
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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Capybara Friend
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    Show me a website that reads what's on screen and tells you exactly what to press IN THE MOMENT and not while you're working on something. If you're also referring to crafts. No. You're also wrong as EXPERT crafts for Firmament were always random on what you needed to do and Macro's would not work.
    I was talking about the precious daily 2k MGP. Who gives a f? It's about what it does not how it does it. Why is the more convenient way "cheating" but this fine? Also there has always been a way to macro Expert crafts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    Scanning the GAME FILES is legal. Anything outside of that is not. And to my knowledge, XIV Alexander would have to be installed IN the game files to read the data going on on screen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    That's blatantly a lie. As it has an entirely separate UI that can be pulled up. You can turn off and on settings even while waiting in Queue. Something you can't do unless in the games options itself without the mod
    You literally don't know what you're talking about.
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  5. #15
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    Ranaku's Avatar
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    Echo Micacho
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    Raiden
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Who the heck even cares? I am not affected in any negative way by it, right? If someone gets all their mini cactpots right good for them, it's not like i get more or less mgp cause of that and they most certainly can't buy any advantage with that. And heck same is with the gathering and other stuff, why would you care.

    Seems like some peoples inferiority complexes are triggered by literally anything nowdays. Go out and touch some weed, maybe that will help you to calm down. Crying and ranting about stuff that isn't directly affecting your life is really unhealthy and yeah i mean it is really unhealthy. If you focus only on the stuff others have, no matter through what means they achieved it, it just drags you down and affects also your mental health so don't push yourself into such a hole.
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  6. #16
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    ...It can also adjust their ping to be near zero..
    As an Aussie, with about 220ms ping.. I would pay big bucks for near zero ping, I would pay thousands in fact.

    But...

    Ye cannae change laws of physics, Jim
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  7. #17
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Said it a long time ago but I think FFXIV should have addons, perhaps like an apple store if they want some tighter control (like over what parsers can do). It took longer than I expected but we really have many of the mods that people are afraid of in FFXIV already, like there is a very parallel existence to many major WoW addons for FFXIV.

    Very much a FFXI windower like situation, with a lot of people using it and in some use cases literally doing better because of it. It would be nice if it was more open, but I guess that's just my opinion lol. Parse shaming could still be a bannable offense, and if SE had a 'store' then they could even put rules or restrictions on parsing (like you can parse your own data, but not other players). Though of course running an apple like store would take resources from them, that's not great. Yet still as I said very much the vast majority of, and the most influential tools of WoW, have very real counterparts in this game. Just here you know for sure console players wont get to enjoy them, and some players might be doing better than others for it.

    If I recall correctly there was a tool that allowed people to put items in their house however they wanted, a HUGE qol, but it was causing problems outdoors as people were floating outdoor objects and posts were made here in the forums because of it. So the tool author restricted that outdoor feature. I sincerely think regardless of whatever else said here that SE should add unrestricted placement in housing (indoors only).

    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    As an Aussie, with about 220ms ping.. I would pay big bucks for near zero ping, I would pay thousands in fact.

    But...
    From what I've read, from reddit, so not hard to obtain info- it works by reducing a hardcoded delay in the game and could be easily considered a cheat if you had inappropriate values. Also from what I've read people who do have delays really appreciate the tool. For reference I've never used it, as luckily I've got a pretty good connection to server.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 01-06-2022 at 06:47 AM.

  8. #18
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    ChirunoEX's Avatar
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    That's blatantly a lie. As it has an entirely separate UI that can be pulled up. You can turn off and on settings even while waiting in Queue. Something you can't do unless in the games options itself without the mod
    It literally isnt a lie tho, XIVALEXANDER does not have that ui, and it doesnt have the addon for mini cactbot, and even then, neither of them affect you if you dont use it, so what the is your problem then?
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  9. #19
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    Lala Felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    From what I've read, from reddit, so not hard to obtain info- it works by reducing a hardcoded delay in the game and could be easily considered a cheat if you had inappropriate values. Also from what I've read people who do have delays really appreciate the tool. For reference I've never used it, as luckily I've got a pretty good connection to server.
    So it's not able to shave off 220ms of one way ping time and allow faster than light data transmission? Bah! OPs point is very hyperbolic then.
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    Jaesuna Elariya
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Getting rid of the battle log is pointless.
    You can packet sniff for damage over the network. Cause you need to keep everyone's game in sync. MMOs aren't in sync magically.
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