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    Sarevok_Thordin's Avatar
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    Sarevok Thordin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koldan View Post
    This is already possible, google ffxivalexander mod. It should be disabled on dev lvl if not intended if intended it should be made baseline.
    AFAIK the devs of this warn you against going too far with this if you compile it (It's all open) as the servers can detect if you are doing skill requests far beyond what you should be. All that thing does is compensate for lag for oGCD animation lock, allowing for classes like MCH to be playable at higher ping.
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koldan View Post
    This is already possible, google ffxivalexander mod. It should be disabled on dev lvl if not intended if intended it should be made baseline.
    No matter what their intention, it should be baseline.
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    Shinon Hisae
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    Sage Lv 91
    Please tell me that you don't think that it is technically possible to circumvent the tome limit. To do that, you would have to rewrite the GAME CODE. This won't ever be possible because your character data is in fact protected. You can't change it. The only stuff you can do with third-party tools is VISUAL (how your game looks for yourself) or CONTROL (how your character behaves) stuff. You CAN'T change GAME MECHANICS.


    And again, for the millionth time: People using these tools will not change anything, because they are against the TOS. That means that the developers won't ever create content around the use of these tools. But they also don't care about anyone using them, as long as they don't use them to harass other players.
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    Last edited by Shialan; 01-18-2022 at 06:37 PM.

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    Thats very nice of you to ignore points i mentioned if not for those fancy mods moving waymarks we'd still be able to move them in combat which i used to regularly employ when running stuff with FC. People made bunch of mods to make mechanics easier so dev solution was to disable moving waymarks during combat.
    Mods just made my and bunch of other people's gameplay WORSE because of mods. Thats a simple example.
    Are you saying all those mods that read network packets, change how they are sent, predict mechanics that regular players cannot see and draw aoe that cant be seen normally (limited cut for example and now yojimbo) for you are fine? This should be allowed and just we all should just "not care"? Is that your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koldan View Post
    Are you saying all those mods that read network packets, change how they are sent, predict mechanics that regular players cannot see and draw aoe that cant be seen normally (limited cut for example and now yojimbo) for you are fine? This should be allowed and just we all should just "not care"? Is that your point?

    Yes, I don't care, because they don't affect me. I can still do this content without them. Why would it matter to me if someone decides to play this game in easy mode?
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    Yes, I don't care, because they don't affect me. I can still do this content without them. Why would it matter to me if someone decides to play this game in easy mode?
    Last time that an addon went "too far" SE removed the ability to put markers during combat. Sure, not a big deal for the most part, but sometimes, particular in 24m raids, was useful if you happen to end with players that don't really know what to do and you did not have time to put them before someone pulled.

    I rather SE add their own addons support to FFXIV so they don't have to resort to such heavy handed solutions when something they don't approved is created.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 01-18-2022 at 08:01 PM.

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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Last time that an addon went "too far" SE removed the ability to put markers during combat. Sure, not a big deal for the most part, but sometimes, particular in 24m raids, was useful if you happen to end with players that don't really know what to do and you did not have time to put them before someone pulled.

    I rather SE add their own addons support to FFXIV so they don't have to resort to such heavy handed solutions when something they don't approved is created.
    No, they shouldn't. All it's going to do, if official add-on support is given to PC players, is piss off the console crowd even further since they won't have access to it. I feel like people don't actually understand the limitations of modding/using plugins on console and should take a few minutes to read about it.

    Keeping it unsupported and a general..."We're not getting involved unless it hits our profits or our legal team."...is the right way to do it in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    No, they shouldn't. All it's going to do, if official add-on support is given to PC players, is piss off the console crowd even further since they won't have access to it. I feel like people don't actually understand the limitations of modding/using plugins on console and should take a few minutes to read about it.

    Keeping it unsupported and a general..."We're not getting involved unless it hits our profits or our legal team."...is the right way to do it in my opinion.
    By adding add-on support what I mean is to do what Blizzard did with WoW, or other games like Warhammer Online/Wildstar, and is creating a LUA API that people will use to make addons with it. I really fail to see how hard will be to make it also available for console unless we are talking about some limitations imposed by Sony.
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    What the title says. I just found out that it literally tells you things in the game that you shouldn't know prior. For example. WHen you do the Gold Saucer Mini Cactpot, it will LIGHT UP the ones you want to click for the highest reward... That's absurd.
    I think you're misunderstanding what it's doing. It doesn't know what the highest reward is. It just lights up the ones that have the highest probability of yielding the best result. Much like this third party web site does: https://super-aardvark.github.io/yuryu/

    You could do the same thing if you took the time to brute force out all the possibilities, but computers are way better at that. SE will never do anything about Alexander for the same reasons they don't do anything about ACT. Source: An interview with YoshiP - https://youtu.be/e_i6mjiGerU?t=180
    • They want to avoid futile reporting wars because games shouldn't be about that.
    • They don't know what all you have installed on your PC, and they can't really find out without seriously invading your privacy.
    • It's natural for players to crave efficiency. As long as they're not calling out other players for matching their efficiency, SE is willing to live and let live.

    I know ACT is an entirely different beast, but it has far more impact on gameplay than this other addon that you're talking about, and they've publicly stated that they're not taking action on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    It can also adjust their ping to be near zero, allowing them to hit skills/nodes much faster than others.
    No, it can't. If you seriously believe this, you have no clue how the internet works. The ping is literally the time it takes the server to respond to your client's request. It is entirely dependent on the connection speeds between all the steps on your route to the server. No addon is going to magically speed up all the connections between your data center and your ISP. You often see third party services offering faster connection speeds to your favorite game. Use them at your own risk. In the best case, you're trading a slow connection to the data center for a faster connection to this third party service. At worst, you're simply trading a slow connection to the data center for a slow connection to the service. YMMV.
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    Last edited by Ronduwil; 01-19-2022 at 02:51 AM.

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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    • They want to avoid futile reporting wars because games shouldn't be about that.
    • They don't know what all you have installed on your PC, and they can't really find out without seriously invading your privacy.
    • It's natural for players to crave efficiency. As long as they're not calling out other players for matching their efficiency, SE is willing to live and let live.

    I know ACT is an entirely different beast, but it has far more impact on gameplay than this other addon that you're talking about, and they've publicly stated that they're not taking action on it.
    Play base apparently disagrees with Yoshi P on this. Which is kind of surprising as usually what Yoshi P says is scripture.
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