They need to find a way to detect XIV Alexander and ban people

[Kuroka]

I just don't understand why these threads pop up every 3 days and reach 10 pages. There is an official statement from Yoshi-P about third-party tools. I timestamped the important part on why they don't scan your systems and only take action when users of these tools openly discriminate against other players.

https://youtu.be/e_i6mjiGerU?t=208

What you really dont understand is they DONT WANT TO but at some point WILL BE FORCED to act and that will be as "nice" as the groundmark change or the housing timers... worst case they gonna beef up ultimate so you barely make it WITH all kinds of plugins/hacks (idc for that but welp)

(worst thing with the ground marks is we got no way of preserving em, yet its what? 3kb local data? let us set 3 for each duty....)


...argh why am I even doing this to myself... just as bad as corona discussions >_>

[Moonlite]

It's illegal in several countries around the world so they literally can't because the game is global.

So strange that other global competitive online games can have anticheat software. Yet for SE it would be illegal. I am shocked that countries hate SE so much.

[Shibi]

its not workaround if you can tripple weave suddenly, which you can do if you enter certain values into alexander itself (which they dont recommend cause its suddenly CHEATING but what does prevent you from doing that).

It's not recommending not to reduce it as it then "suddenly CHEATING"... Having now audited the github sourcecode for it, reducing the minimum value below 75ms is something they don't recommend, as the server's cheat detection can then see it.

Quoting from the code that does it....

// The server will do sanity check on the frequency of action use requests,
// and it's very easy to identify whether you're trying to go below allowed minimum value.

They go on to warn

Do NOT decrease this value. You've been warned.

The reason why seems quite clear to me, above 75ms and someone on a very high ping (say Australia) will get performance somewhat like someone closer to the server (like North America) but someone in North America isn't going to see much of anything, as their ping is already low enough.

However, the source code does make very clear that the server can see this, and clear to me too, it is going to put an account at risk should they look in their logs and act on the server's detection. Even for someone with 220ms ping they can say "hmmm, logs show he is playing at 75ms"

It would be far better if SE fixed their janky netcode.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

Agreed, the netcode does need to be fixed up.

Right now anyone on a ping in triple digits (or even 75ms) is going to struggle to play entire classes like MCH and RPR properly due to the horrendous clipping. RPR can be mitigated somewhat but MCH is a "Lol, nope".

It's just a matter of getting it into the heads of the devs there IS a problem.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

I play on PC. Still doesn't make it fair for console players. Nice assumption though.

If only it were even easy to get a proper PC right now, it's like they forgot there is this whole silicon shortage thing making GPUs worth 3x as much as they should be.

[IckeDerTyp]

Just looked up the tools mentioned here with very easy google, and the one I've known about for a while-

I wouldn't categorize many of these as minuscule in benefits, if not I'd consider some of them insane QoL improvements (or maybe a bit 'cheaty' but at least not so much that it's into someone elses space). I'd also note it appears a lot of these different tools / devs are actively trying not to mess with other player's experience, just improve the experience for those who use it.

Here some that stuck out at me as I went through ones I've learned here or via reddit (mostly via reddit to be honest):

• Put housing objects where and how you want without having to deal with glitches
• Turn your combos into stuff that looks like pvp combos
• Deadly Boss mod (tells you what is coming up and sometimes what to do to deal with the mechanic)
• Notifications for skills and events (like if a player uses provoke, someone dies, you have a skill off cooldown, etc)
• Marks players that have debuffable debuffs, mark players that can be raised or if someone else is raising them
• Tells you you and others damage (parse)
• Check the market without being near the market
• Tell you when hunts are spotted and where they are exactly (based on community data I guess, so it's not a perfect system)
• Reduce a hardcoded animation lock so you can double and triple weave
• Hide or change players (graphics in general)
• Modify UI elements (though that should be obvious by this point)
• Help you play cactpot
• Help you play Triple Triad (NPCs only) - I want to note here that is is pretty interesting that developers self control their works to try and not to ruin other player's experience. Kind of sweet/cute.
• Info in deep dungeons
• Show exactly where your trigger pixel is so you can dodge AoE's insanely well
• More powerful UI features in general like filtering spam, blocklist, teleport ease, etc.
• Macros that can call other macros or be as long as you'd like
• Improved mouse over macros

• Most epic one I saw, adds chat bubbles.. XD

I'd kill for SE to add most of these features...

[24spencer]

Unless you're using it how would you know that? Pretty sus if you ask me.

[Rinhi]

I play on PC. Still doesn't make it fair for console players. Nice assumption though.

there's a similar tool on the same github page as the PC tool

[Commander_Justitia]

So strange that other global competitive online games can have anticheat software.

They could if they wanted, but they know the servers will implode the moment they add a few more megabyte to the 1.0 code

[lezard21]

Werent you a Hrothgar before too? Join the chadlander utopia bro

I had to fantasia out after getting tired of getting "UwU" tells from furry degenerates