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  1. #11
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    Lala Felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    I think it's because Castrum is considerably shorter than Praetorium, which has faaar more unskipable cutscenes. So they had it give less xp.
    Weirdly, Castrum needs more "skill", in the run to the ceruleum tanks, the ceruleum tanks, the run to the cannons, and the to platforms and two big guys bit before Lydia. All that trash being dealt with should buff the XP reward more on the bosses more.

    Prae is a lot more tank and spank after the first two dashs.

    (yeah I put "" around skill, we over level it by a mile still)
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    Sandra Dalvia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Weirdly, Castrum needs more "skill", in the run to the ceruleum tanks, the ceruleum tanks, the run to the cannons, and the to platforms and two big guys bit before Lydia. All that trash being dealt with should buff the XP reward more on the bosses more.

    Prae is a lot more tank and spank after the first two dashs.

    (yeah I put "" around skill, we over level it by a mile still)
    I think the deciding factor for the xp is not """difficulty""" but "how long it takes". How many runs you can do of one dungeon vs the other in a given time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    I think the deciding factor for the xp is not """difficulty""" but "how long it takes". How many runs you can do of one dungeon vs the other in a given time.
    Yes, indeed. However trash used to give XP. And there is a lot, lot more trash in there. I feel the XP isn't correct for the extra work, even if the time is less. I've seen a lot of fishing for Prae, and that has to be impacting the first-time-runners.

    However, 90 isn't hard to reach, and the XP is moot once you are there. The tomes are more important.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Yes, indeed. However trash used to give XP. And there is a lot, lot more trash in there. I feel the XP isn't correct for the extra work, even if the time is less. I've seen a lot of fishing for Prae, and that has to be impacting the first-time-runners.

    However, 90 isn't hard to reach, and the XP is moot once you are there. The tomes are more important.
    A LOT of that trash is avoidable or mass killable if people wouldn't just.. Run. Nobody stops at the first cannons anymore, everyone pulls that very first blob of guards that GO AWAY ONCE YOU TRIGGER THE LIGHTS. HEAVEN HELP ME WHEN PEOPLE PULL THE LAST PACK OF COLOSSI!


    I'M NOT BITTER YOU'RE BITTER!
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    Because there's too many factors to take into account:

    - Did you have first timers?
    - Were you wearing Memphina's Earring?
    - Did you complete a challenge log on top that stealthily gave you the boost to get the full level?
    - Was your class in need?
    - Did you get Prae or Castrum?
    - Did you join a party in progress and missed out on a boss (or previously also trash) experience?

    So yeah: It is not consistent because the amount of experience changes based on a lot of unpredictable factors. Nothing new really, it's been like this for years. The only consistent thing is the very base XP you get for the roulette itself, but that's never applied by itself in a vacuum.
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    Nyarlha Moonstalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You get significantly less exp at level 80 vs 81+
    This. You need to take into account your level. XP scaling for MSQ roulette is not linear, it's not "you get 90% of your level whatever your level is".
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  7. #17
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    Well as people pointed out there are MANY variables that might have netted you more xp but without seeing you exact cercumstance we can only splitball reasons to you. no matter how you cut it its damn good xp either way. I personally get VERY disappointed when i get castrum. Preatorium for life
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  8. #18
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    Areic Davrun
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    I feel this.

    Ran prae at 89 on my mch, he had like 5-10% exp into level. Finish the run and he just flat out levels to 90. I was bewildered as I never thought it gave that much. There was no challenge done, no adventurer in need.

    Ran it again on my paladin at like 82-83, and it just gave me around 60% of a level, it does feel very random
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    Nicodemus Mercy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areic View Post
    I feel this.

    Ran prae at 89 on my mch, he had like 5-10% exp into level. Finish the run and he just flat out levels to 90. I was bewildered as I never thought it gave that much. There was no challenge done, no adventurer in need.

    Ran it again on my paladin at like 82-83, and it just gave me around 60% of a level, it does feel very random
    You only get the big main scenario roulette bonus once a day and Meridianum gives noticeably less xp than Praetorium due to the time it takes to complete. If your paladin only got 60% of a level then it sounds like you got Meridianum instead of Praetorium.

    Unfortunately they can't make the xp the same between them or else everyone would abandon Praetorium to try for Meridianum. It's already bad enough that people sometimes bail on Meridianum because it doesnt give as much as Praetorium. It would be worse if they made the xp the same between them, only it would be Praetorium that would be bailed on, and by far more people due to its length. As it is now there's give and take. Meridianum is shorter for less xp and Praetorium is longer for more xp.
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    Madeye Moxie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Yes, indeed. However trash used to give XP.
    Trash mob XP was moved to the bosses in all dungeons. It didn't go away. You just get it when you kill a boss instead. Which actually means any mobs you skip are helping you get better xp/time.
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