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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Curiously, last I checked the 79 gear in ShB was just reskins of the level 50 gear from WoD. The level 80 Job Quest gear was the Weathered. Not sure how any of it's a scam, as your words make zero sense since they literally give it to you earlier on and let it scale even. If anything, that's a boon.
    It’s a scam because we’re literally missing out on a gearset. The level 80 role quests gear was the weathered yes, aka the AF gear, same as the gear we get this expansion at 89 lol. Except in ShB we got the 79 gulg gear which while a reskin, we at least got it. We didn’t get any left side gear from the 89 dungeon.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    It’s a scam because we’re literally missing out on a gearset. The level 80 role quests gear was the weathered yes, aka the AF gear, same as the gear we get this expansion at 89 lol. Except in ShB we got the 79 gulg gear which while a reskin, we at least got it. We didn’t get any left side gear from the 89 dungeon.
    Sooo... you're just mad, they didn't put in a useless set for gear for one level?

    Color me confused on how pointless that would be....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    They forget we get free 89 unique gear for each job from a vendor instead of grinding it in a dungeon, that scales to 90, and you expect them to remember how content is released? Pfffbbt...
    Or that we'll be getting info on the island sanctuary later?
    Or that ShB was the unique expansion that gave a mount for leveling all combat jobs?
    Or That PvP content is coming later?
    That normal gear has been re-skins since HW?

    Not sure they do realize, could be wrong though! People want it right now, all of it!
    Each expansion we get job gear, this one they drop the level to 89 and remove the gear from the level 89 dungeon. I don't get your point at all.
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  4. #184
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Sooo... you're just mad, they didn't put in a useless set for gear for one level?

    Color me confused on how pointless that would be....
    How would it be useless? They could either give us a unique glam for the dungeon or if they did decide to use a reskin, make it be dyable and a set that hasnt been dyable in the past. Just because its useless to you doesnt mean its useless to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Curiously, last I checked the 79 gear in ShB was just reskins of the level 50 gear from WoD. The level 80 Job Quest gear was the Weathered. Not sure how any of it's a scam, as your words make zero sense since they literally give it to you earlier on and let it scale even. If anything, that's a boon.
    Funny enough the crafted gearset we got just 4 weeks later was a reskin of the Mt Gulg gear, and thus the gear from WoD, and it was dyable.. That Mt. Gulg gearset really had some incredible longevity to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Sooo... you're just mad, they didn't put in a useless set for gear for one level?

    Color me confused on how pointless that would be....
    What's useless to you isn't useless to everyone. I still have some of the 79 dungeon items in my glam dresser.

    The bottom line is we got one less set of gear. They could have made that a new set, or they could have used 89 gear to introduce a dyable version of raid gear from a previous expansion we still don't have (Mhach, Labyrinth, Syrcus, all of Ivalice). They instead cut out an entire set of gear so we'll never know now.
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  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    How would it be useless? They could either give us a unique glam for the dungeon or if they did decide to use a reskin, make it be dyable and a set that hasnt been dyable in the past. Just because its useless to you doesnt mean its useless to others.
    Well, we already get the free gear at 89 without being forced to do the time sink of it, instead getting the benefit of making it dyable once 90 through role quests. It reduces the grind needed to get geared up for start doing content, while giving us a unique look, versus your proposed idea that they should have added a re-skinned set in the 89 dungeon, that would be useless in 1 level anyway if they did it the old method, just to get some glamor items that most won't use since just reskins of reskins.

    I'd say that's fairly useless to waste time on in development and in player time. People are already crying, you included, about the reskins already. So what is it? Give us reskins, or don't give us reskins? Don't go back and forth on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Well, we already get the free gear at 89 without being forced to do the time sink of it, instead getting the benefit of making it dyable once 90 through role quests. It reduces the grind needed to get geared up for start doing content, while giving us a unique look, versus your proposed idea that they should have added a re-skinned set in the 89 dungeon, that would be useless in 1 level anyway if they did it the old method, just to get some glamor items that most won't use since just reskins of reskins.

    I'd say that's fairly useless to waste time on in development and in player time. People are already crying, you included, about the reskins already. So what is it? Give us reskins, or don't give us reskins? Don't go back and forth on it.
    I literally just stated what they could do. They could’ve given us a unique glam. My issue with the reskins is they’re reusing them for things in the past we’d usually get unique glams from(Tataru glam for example) but also they’re reusing glams and not even role swapping them or making them dyable which is beyond laziness. My proposed idea would be for it to be a unique set, which i stated if you hadn’t read over that part. However if that somehow proved to be too much for them at the very least they could use a reskinned glam and have it be a set that hasn’t been dyable previously like other people have mentioned. Based on your logic we just shouldn’t have dungeon gear in general since it’s going to be rendered useless in a few levels anyways. You seem to be skimming over the points people are using to be constructive because they don’t fit your narrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Well, we already get the free gear at 89 without being forced to do the time sink of it, instead getting the benefit of making it dyable once 90 through role quests. It reduces the grind needed to get geared up for start doing content, while giving us a unique look, versus your proposed idea that they should have added a re-skinned set in the 89 dungeon, that would be useless in 1 level anyway if they did it the old method, just to get some glamor items that most won't use since just reskins of reskins.

    I'd say that's fairly useless to waste time on in development and in player time. People are already crying, you included, about the reskins already. So what is it? Give us reskins, or don't give us reskins? Don't go back and forth on it.
    Here's a simple way to put it for you. When we get the same item model but with dyability added, that's at least something added. When we get the same armor, for the same jobs, with a slight recolor on one part of it, that's not really something added.

    Also, there was no grind involved for getting your AF gear in Shadowbringers or Stormblood, no moreso than getting your AF in Endwalker anyway. The grind was in dying that gear but you're talking about "getting geared up to start doing content". In Shadowbringers you're handed your job gear at a certain point in the MSQ, the only difference is you have to be level cap to wear it. Regardless, you had your job gear by the time you started doing content, so getting that job gear at 89 instead makes no functional difference. They just did it so they could cut out a gearset and it's as simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I literally just stated what they could do. They could’ve given us a unique glam. My issue with the reskins is they’re reusing them for things in the past we’d usually get unique glams from(Tataru glam for example) but also they’re reusing glams and not even role swapping them or making them dyable which is beyond laziness. My proposed idea would be for it to be a unique set, which i stated if you hadn’t read over that part. However if that somehow proved to be too much for them at the very least they could use a reskinned glam and have it be a set that hasn’t been dyable previously like other people have mentioned. Based on your logic we just shouldn’t have dungeon gear in general since it’s going to be rendered useless in a few levels anyways. You seem to be skimming over the points people are using to be constructive because they don’t fit your narrative.
    I'm not skimming over anything, you are. What they did I feel is fine, what I find funny though is you literally just said you wanted reskins, while early saying they were lazy by using reskins. To now say you want unique gear from the dungeon instead which hasn't been done ever since HW, so you know it more then likely wouldn't happen now. or at least(Again, humorously) to give as dyable reskins.

    Mind.... blown.... Ok, def done with you. You demand one thing, to then say you don't want that thing, to then demand it again. Talk about flip floppity so I'm just gonna hoppity outta here.
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