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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Seems like a troll thread due to the mass amount of information in the original post. Said person doesn't even know how the servers work, and listed rather poor substitutes as an option, showing they didn't know anything about the current infrastructure, which very much debunked their "advice". I even earlier linked a picture of just one row for one server from their data centers when they re-did them. None of the services the OP linked could even match a 100th of the power and connections needed.

    Let us go on with how this is just the opening of the expansion, the content being on par with each one so far... Music for example in Edens Gate, remixes of other music.

    Just a lot of misinformation due to ignorance in the original post, so seems quite clearly a troll thread.
    Eden’s gate had 5 songs. Pandaemonium has 2. There’s more reused gear this expansion than in prior ones, and we don’t even have an 89 dungeon set compared to the x9 sets we’ve gotten in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sclair0 View Post
    I don't think any of this addresses the main problem of my complaint on the time travel holes. Venat keeps everything to herself and the only diegetic reasoning she explained is "Hermes might not work with us if he knew."
    And ... it's because she has the perfect reason both pre-and-post hindsight? I mean ... even after given the full story, and that his action will lead to the end of the world, he freaking did it anyway "muahaha we're all deserve to die!", that's why he let Metion escape while try to mindwipe the group. Aeon later with all of his memory restored and he's still not changed as evidence in his lines in the final dungeon. So yeah, I would say Venat was pretty on point in trying to keep him in the dark.

    On the other hand, Venat knew he was one of the key architect in stopping the incoming disaster. Remember post Elpis thing is already in motion, it was no longer a question of if but when. It makes perfect sense to use Hermes's knowledge in stalling the disaster, because all points toward if he caught wind of the "truth", not only he would probably not help in fighting the first Final Day, he probably would help accelerate it!

    Like I said many time, people are free to agree or disagree with Venat decision. But hers is one made with solid foundation and reasoning, not because she simply took our words for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    And ... it's because she has the perfect reason both pre-and-post hindsight? I mean ... even after given the full story, and that his action will lead to the end of the world, he freaking did it anyway "muahaha we're all deserve to die!", that's why he let Metion escape while try to mindwipe the group. Aeon later with all of his memory restored and he's still not changed as evidence in his lines in the final dungeon. So yeah, I would say Venat was pretty on point in trying to keep him in the dark.

    Like I said many time, people are free to agree or disagree with Venat decision. But hers is one made with solid foundation and reasoning, not because she simply took our words for it.
    I disagree it's solid reasoning to let the world end 8 different times because one guy might not use his expertise in dynamis to help you solve a problem you wont even tell anyone is a problem. Especially after that guy is sundered and you no longer even have the risk of losing the expertise from telling the people who remain.

    The issue isn't not telling Hermes, its not telling anyone (publicly, I do think they will expand on who she did tell with the raid) just to 'gain' Hermes expertise against the final days.

    But again this is mostly a complaint about the In World logic. The story flow works fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Eden’s gate had 5 songs. Pandaemonium has 2. There’s more reused gear this expansion than in prior ones, and we don’t even have an 89 dungeon set compared to the x9 sets we’ve gotten in the past.
    I'm not sure how that detracts from what I said on how the songs are just remixes in Eden's Gate for a few of them. You get free 89 gear in Sharlayan. Every expansion after heavensward has used reskinned gear. We saw this in ShB, and people complained back then, to then forget it it seems. They complained about it in Stormblood as well.

    At least the re-skins we're seeing released they updated the textures on for a few of them. I'm not denying it was done, but it's always been done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pintsized View Post
    Agreed, the asinine use of Azem's Crystal to invalidate any emotional investment players had made in the Ultima Thule arc as well as the 'teleport me home' button simply destroyed any integrity the writers once had IMO.

    It's beyond me why so many 'young male fans' are so giddy with excitement over this appalling end to the ARR arc .. it's FFXIV's equivalent of Game of Thrones Season 8.
    I'm a woman in her 30s, and despite the flaws, I still enjoyed things, for the most part. So much for the generalization.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    I'm not sure how that detracts from what I said on how the songs are just remixes in Eden's Gate for a few of them. You get free 89 gear in Sharlayan. Every expansion after heavensward has used reskinned gear. We saw this in ShB, and people complained back then, to then forget it it seems. They complained about it in Stormblood as well.

    At least the re-skins we're seeing released they updated the textures on for a few of them. I'm not denying it was done, but it's always been done.
    You’re saying how the content is on par with other expansions when that isn’t true. We’ve seen the most reused gear this expansion release than on any other expansion release. This expansion they couldn’t even bother to role swap or make the reused gear dyable. The 89 gear we get is af gear, but that doesn’t warrant missing out on an entire left side gear piece. That’s a loss in content compared to previous expansions. As for the songs it doesn’t change the fact we only got 2 songs for Pandaemonium, with one of them being a remix of the other and the savage version of the 4th fight not even having a song transition.Eden at least had 5 songs, some of them remixes or not and had a song transition for savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    You’re saying how the content is on par with other expansions when that isn’t true. We’ve seen the most reused gear this expansion release than on any other expansion release. This expansion they couldn’t even bother to role swap or make the reused gear dyable. The 89 gear we get is af gear, but that doesn’t warrant missing out on an entire left side gear piece. That’s a loss in content compared to previous expansions. As for the songs it doesn’t change the fact we only got 2 songs for Pandaemonium, with one of them being a remix of the other and the savage version of the 4th fight not even having a song transition.Eden at least had 5 songs, some of them remixes or not and had a song transition for savage.
    How can you say that, when the expansion has just come out though? And I'm able to dye the re-used gear, very odd... At least the stuff that used to come from Siren. And yes, there's less music, but we kinda know why on that aspect. I'd rather take quality over quantity especially in that regard.

    Honestly, it feels almost just like the need to complain over trivial things, to then neglect the good things that are new. I just find that odd. Plus the earlier misinformation on how servers work, may have shifted my attitude to people just complaining to complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    How can you say that, when the expansion has just come out though? And I'm able to dye the re-used gear, very odd... At least the stuff that used to come from Siren. And yes, there's less music, but we kinda know why on that aspect. I'd rather take quality over quantity especially in that regard.

    Honestly, it feels almost just like the need to complain over trivial things, to then neglect the good things that are new. I just find that odd. Plus the earlier misinformation on how servers work, may have shifted my attitude to people just complaining to complain.
    Oh so you can dye the level 87 dungeon gear? I’m so happy you were able to solve this problem everyone has had. Just because it’s trivial to you doesn’t mean it’s trivial to others, also what’s the excuse for the music? They have other composers, they’re even credited in the credits of the game. The expansion has just come out yes but i’m comparing to previous expansion releases. Hence why i also compared this raid tier’s music to last expansions first raid tier music. The missing gear set is also still applicable. Personally i’m just not okay with us getting less so far while the company continues to make mass amounts of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Oh so you can dye the level 87 dungeon gear? I’m so happy you were able to solve this problem everyone has had. Just because it’s trivial to you doesn’t mean it’s trivial to others, also what’s the excuse for the music? They have other composers, they’re even credited in the credits of the game. The expansion has just come out yes but i’m comparing to previous expansion releases. Hence why i also compared this raid tier’s music to last expansions first raid tier music. The missing gear set is also still applicable. Personally i’m just not okay with us getting less so far while the company continues to make mass amounts of money.
    So, from what I'm finding out, just that dungeon the gear cannot be dyed. Possibly an overlook? What I'd assume at least and nothing really to complain about atm imho. And due to the issues Soken had, while also being the lead music creator for the game, I think your other question is answered fairly simply in that regard. Yes they have other composers, but they tend to follow the lead of Soken to keep to theme etc.

    All things that can be fixed later if absolutely needed, especially the fact one dungeon set is undyable atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Those things are never released this early in the new expansion cycle. We will almost certainly get new relic weapons with or without zones like Eureka or Bozja. But the first of those patches is still a ways off if they stick to their normal schedules.
    2.0 released its relic quest line from launch...

    released with the 3 HM trials
    love it or hate it, 2 trials (castrum and praetorium)
    couple of max level dungeons
    more in depth crafting compared to now

    We now get no relic quest line on launch

    2 ex trials
    no equivalent to castrum or prae
    only 2 additional dungeons to the story ones (makes a change, see how this goes)
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