Where is all the content?

[Floortank]

Apologies, the question I was answering was the fallacy that servers en masse are no longer available. Which, by providing that link, can be seen as false. I have stated several times I know not of the power the XIV servers require though I'd hazard a guess they're not as powerful as the one I linked to there.

So you're gonna present yourself as having a case while admitting that you dunno squat diddly.

[Krotoan]

Server setup 1-5 days for this specific Pretty hefty rig.

But you are 100% correct, I do not know the exact specifications of the servers nor how many would be needed. It's simply conjecture on my part.

You admit you have no idea.. however you continue with:

What isn't conjecture though is the proof of the lie that these things are impossible to come by. I'm sorry but that's simply untrue. Sure they'd have to spend more, which I believe is why it's not happening.

All you see is "High performance server" and "available now". It's obvious you did not read my response in totality. These consumer level offerings aren't what they need. You googled "server" and point at the first thing you find that says for sale and go "SEE! I FOUND SOME" when you have no idea what specs, location, access, bandwidth, compatibility or layout they require.

Your accusation is PURE conjecture coming from smug ignorance. You don't know. You have PROVEN you don't know by your assertion they could have this all setup in days and just.. somehow plug it in to the existing servers they have somewhere else and make it work but they're worried about money and THAT'S why they've shut down sales and advertising... right?

Let alone that multiple IT professionals (myself included, I work for an ISP in the NOC) have related first hand experience in ordering hardware being advertised as available and then being quoted MONTHS out for delivery, sometimes even being told "oh sorry, we can't fulfill that".

Ah it didn't attach my image, See Here

Out of the 1300+ people plus currently waiting in the Q to get in. Let's say they're all paying a standard sub fee without the mognet App.

That's £9.50 x £1300 - £12,350 - Per month, and that's only the people waiting in the Q on Lich. I'm sure you can do the rough maths on the true income of the game.

And now you're showing you have no idea what it costs to pay a studio full of developers and the monthly costs in electricity, bandwith, maintenance, repairs, monitoring, moderation, and realty to run the game we play.

Yeah, they probably make a pretty profit, but this doesn't mean they're willing to tank ALL their profits into overpaying for things, let alone that those things aren't available.


Give up on this last one. You snarked on a far larger bite than you know.

Complain about the story, and the content all you like. That's all subjective. Enjoy the game or don't. Whatever. Yes there's lots of things that can be improved. Cool suggest away.

Just stop making these wildly ignorant and smarmy claims about things you know nothing about that are widely published over all industries to be fact.

[Velnora]

if I am at a restaurant, and the food is half cooked or wrong, unlike you, I dont feel the need to create a scene and complain... I just leave. some people like to create a scene and drama, and others, simply cant be bothered if expectations arent met. life is too short to spend it whining. just move on. life is much happier that way.

no one is taking away your ability to whine about things you dislike. but its a little entitled to take it as a "right" to complain, since thats only a one way street (unless you subscribe to WoW who feels its their right to complain about the subscribers right back)

Of course it's entitled. You are literally entitled to that by paying for the service.

[Komarimono]

Apologies, the question I was answering was the fallacy that servers en masse are no longer available. Which, by providing that link, can be seen as false. I have stated several times I know not of the power the XIV servers require though I'd hazard a guess they're not as powerful as the one I linked to there.

Heh.... Just one of those options isn't even a 1/1000th of the power they need.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...65#post4085765

That's just one row of several racks of one section of a server of one data center.

There is no fallacy, there's nothing that compares to their hardware in compatibility and speed and connection routing. That picture is showing 28 X 34 million USD in current over priced components, if they could even get them. This is not taking into account deployment time, assembly, internal testing, latancy routing, cooling etc etc etc.

[Velnora]

You admit you have no idea.. however you continue with:


All you see is "High performance server" and "available now". It's obvious you did not read my response in totality. These consumer level offerings aren't what they need. You googled "server" and point at the first thing you find that says for sale and go "SEE! I FOUND SOME" when you have no idea what specs, location, access, bandwidth, compatibility or layout they require.

Your accusation is PURE conjecture coming from smug ignorance. You don't know. You have PROVEN you don't know by your assertion they could have this all setup in days and just.. somehow plug it in to the existing servers they have somewhere else and make it work but they're worried about money and THAT'S why they've shut down sales and advertising... right?

Let alone that multiple IT professionals (myself included, I work for an ISP in the NOC) have related first hand experience in ordering hardware being advertised as available and then being quoted MONTHS out for delivery, sometimes even being told "oh sorry, we can't fulfill that".





And now you're showing you have no idea what it costs to pay a studio full of developers and the monthly costs in electricity, bandwith, maintenance, repairs, monitoring, moderation, and realty to run the game we play.

Yeah, they probably make a pretty profit, but this doesn't mean they're willing to tank ALL their profits into overpaying for things, let alone that those things aren't available.


Give up on this last one. You snarked on a far larger bite than you know.

Complain about the story, and the content all you like. That's all subjective. Enjoy the game or don't. Whatever. Yes there's lots of things that can be improved. Cool suggest away.

Just stop making these wildly ignorant and smarmy claims about things you know nothing about that are widely published over all industries to be fact.

Yes, it's well known SE horribly underfunds this game. Maybe NFTs will add more revenue for new hires /s

[Krotoan]

Yes, it's well known SE horribly underfunds this game. Maybe NFTs will add more revenue for new hires /s

Yes they do and it would be wonderful if they'd spend more money for stuff, but the amount of money necessary to be thrown at server manufacturers for them to forsake their previous orders and destroy their reputations JUST to supply SE with the servers it's needs to upgrade is likely astronomical. As in negate all profits for the year if not years astronomical. You'd need to assure those companies they'd be SET with this purchase , at least until they could rework and rebuild a customer base.


It sucks that SE treats FFXIV like it lives under the stairs and siphons off the profits to fund other games, but this particular solution isn't going to be solved by throwing any reasonable amount of money at it.

[EgilTheStressedMage]

In things you aren’t doing for reasons.

[MoofiaBossVal]

2. Hell of a lot of new, fantastic OSTs, as well, what's your point here? Not enough music composed by Soken WHILE HE HAD CANCER?!

Why is the score of this game dependent solely on one man? Surely Soken has assistants who could step up and release tracks. And Square could also contract other composers to fill in the gaps. Contract Uematsu, or Sekito (he did The Last Remnant's awesome powermetal), or Hamauzu (FF10 and 13), or even Sakimoto (FF12, Valkyria Chronicles), etc.

[Lauront]

Yes I'm sure the minority of a thread telling someone to get out is a fairly solid trend /s

It's ironic that we talk about feedback though - Because this exact thread is just a solid argument of why the developers aren't exactly rushing out of their seats to develop new and innovative content when we have people busting out their fists over a lost dungeon, or a lost level 89 gearset, or the reuse of certain assets "cuz mah quota". Many people don't understand that development time is a finite resource. The developers branching out and developing content such as Ishgard Restoration, Ocean Fishing, Island Sanctuary, or Deep Dungeon is always going to cause certain cuts in other areas of the content.

Deep dungeons were cut from SHB one way or another and I'd say it's debatable whether it was branching out that really caused the issue here, or whether there is other work going on behind the scenes (e.g. implementation of male viera.) Whether branching out is a good thing or not is subject to consumer tastes and execution - it comes down to how much you want to experiment and how much of it you can afford. My point is, if those forms of content are failing to satisfy enough customers to make them worthwhile, then it is useful to know 1) that they're not pleasing enough customers to do so (although this isn't always forefront of their concerns), and 2) why that may be. 2) can be difficult to achieve because not all customers are able to articulate their complaints well enough, but in some cases it is sufficient to simply know that they don't like something and then work from there. Telling people to quit if they don't like the game does not really help the developer in any way and it is the mindset of the most out of touch developers out there. Nor does customers shouting down the complaints of other customers help much. Disagreement is fine, whereas telling others to quit over grievances is to no one's benefit.

I'm pretty sure worst is said pretty much everyday in /yell or even /say. They don't care, because those same people bring in more people, that's just how communities evolve.

I am not talking about compliance with TOS here but whether as a company you'd rather people just walked away from your product without telling you why or whether you'd at least want them to articulate their reasons to the degree that they're able to. SE has had quite a few awful failures of products in recent years and FF14 is one of its few consistently profitable IPs. Yet it is easy to grow complacent in a market where some of your competitors are imploding, in part because they themselves are dismissive of their consumers and take them for granted.

[Melorie]

Every expansion is like that, OP. The formula is quite rigid, and imo the biggest hype of a new expansion is mostly towards the continuation of the story and a few new fights.


Also LOL at people thinking like the dev team is made by three people they see on live letters. Small indie company all over again.