Where is all the content?

[crimsonwitch]

Speaking of friends all of mine unironically abandoned this game for Classic Wow. My friends list is empty unless I want to roll up an Orc. And no offense to this games playerbase, but I'm not being showered with friendship opportunities. That is unless I abandon my ability to be honest and shill with them. Personally I can't stand this community.

i have no idea what to say about WOW as i've never played it, but i will agree that this game is not as social as it is hyped up to be. If you unsub, people won't talk to you anymore even on discord. I think gone are the days when people liked to make connections thru online games.

[AnotherPerson]

i have no idea what to say about WOW as i've never played it, but i will agree that this game is not as social as it is hyped up to be. If you unsub, people won't talk to you anymore even on discord. I think gone are the days when people liked to make connections thru online games.

Uh, I think you might need to find better friends. I still keep in contact with people who long since stopped or are taking a break due to personal issues/work commitment.

[Melorie]

i have no idea what to say about WOW as i've never played it, but i will agree that this game is not as social as it is hyped up to be. If you unsub, people won't talk to you anymore even on discord. I think gone are the days when people liked to make connections thru online games.

Eh, although I still find the social aspect of this game kinda bad, I have found the weirdest, craziest, most passive-aggressive and head-in-the-sand people and most amazing people I have *ever* meet here. So I would say that at some point you have to keep searching till you vibe with a certain group, not unlike other social activities. I've found a lot of pettiness, weird drama, people that think they're edgy anime protagonists and overly-sensitive snowflakes... But, as with every community, there's cool people out there too. Usually the most controversial ones are very loud but that doesn't mean that's all there is.

I just want other people who want to play with me. It's so frustrating.

I would advise searching for big FCs that have something you identify with and also have new blood, so you're not stuck with people that log in just to AFK in limsa. And, as always, make an effort to talk in the chat.

[Ardeth]

i have no idea what to say about WOW as i've never played it, but i will agree that this game is not as social as it is hyped up to be. If you unsub, people won't talk to you anymore even on discord. I think gone are the days when people liked to make connections thru online games.

My biggest issue is having a different opinion seems to just seems ostracize me. If like so what I didn't like Endwalker as long as you don't ask me my honest opinion about it I'm not going to bring it up. But I joined a new FC and I spoke my mind and now I'm like the red headed step child. I did nothing to them outside of being honest and myself and now I'm struggling with just leaving the game entirely. I've tried this song and dance too many times. I just want friends who play the same game as me and are chill. I will literally stay subbed forever if I have a reason to login a family to come home to. But every FC either pushes into their discord to abandon the people who won't. To expect you to voice chat with total strangers in order to move up the social circle. What happened to "Anybody want to do roulettes?" Seriously I'm just tired of this song and dance. I've joined like 10 FCs last year and even this new one is a dud. I just want other people who want to play with me. It's so frustrating.

[Ardeth]

Eh, although I still find the social aspect of this game kinda bad, I have found the weirdest, craziest, most passive-aggressive and head-in-the-sand people and most amazing people I have *ever* meet here. So I would say that at some point you have to keep searching till you vibe with a certain group, not unlike other social activities. I've found a lot of pettiness, weird drama, people that think they're edgy anime protagonists and overly-sensitive snowflakes... But, as with every community, there's cool people out there too. Usually the most controversial ones are very loud but that doesn't mean that's all there is.

I agree with you. I'm just tired of running into those players EVERYWHERE. It's like I'm a casual I just want to chill. "Hey have you ever tired Savage?" It's like a girl getting pressured into sex. It's like feel me out before you ask into the no. And don't ostracize me because I said no. It's horrendous. I play on one of the worst servers for progression for a reason. I don't want to do it. Anyway I'm ranting.

[Melorie]

I agree with you. I'm just tired of running into those players EVERYWHERE. It's like I'm a casual I just want to chill. "Hey have you ever tired Savage?" It's like a girl getting pressured into sex. It's like feel me out before you ask into the no. And don't ostracize me because I said no. It's horrendous. I play on one of the worst servers for progression for a reason. I don't want to do it. Anyway I'm ranting.

I found this surprising tbh. Most of the players I know hardly ask for savage. Many of them are actually casual to a fault and got inside the second life hellhole too deep for my tastes (at this point i'm not even sure if the second life crowd is casual since they play this game even more than these that try hard content... but whatever) - dealing with these people really burned my patience and created a terrible vision of this game's community in my mind. If anything, most raiders tend to be more down-to-earth. But it doesn't help that everywhere there's people telling you how nice everyone is, and you kinda feel like you're actually going crazy for not feeling that.
Taking a huge break from FFXIV actually helped me in that regard. I don't blame you for feeling this way though, it's not easy to find a group you might feel comfy with - but these people are hard to come by in other aspects of life as well.

[Velnora]

I found this surprising tbh. Most of the players I know hardly ask for savage. Many of them are actually casual to a fault and got inside the second life hellhole too deep for my tastes (at this point i'm not even sure if the second life crowd is casual since they play this game even more than these that try hard content... but whatever) - dealing with these people really burned my patience and created a terrible vision of this game's community in my mind. If anything, most raiders tend to be more down-to-earth. But it doesn't help that everywhere there's people telling you how nice everyone is, and you kinda feel like you're actually going crazy for not feeling that.
Taking a huge break from FFXIV actually helped me in that regard. I don't blame you for feeling this way though, it's not easy to find a group you might feel comfy with - but these people are hard to come by in other aspects of life as well.

I've always found the community to be kinda clique.

[Melorie]

I've always found the community to be kinda clique.

Yep, I also feel this a bit as well. Like I'm inside some sort of high school thing where people get divided into tribes or something like that. Doesn't really help that I usually play with other latinos which definitely help this feeling, but I wouldn't be surprised to see this type of behaviour in the american/european community either, this game draws people like that in a way that no other MMO I have ever touched does, and I can't explain the reason for that. A lot of other friends notice this as well, I've had loong talks with people regarding this, trying to understand the motives behind this particular feeling FFXIV gives. But oh well, MMOs are bound to have weird people anyway, this one wouldn't be an exception.

[Ardeth]

I found this surprising tbh. Most of the players I know hardly ask for savage. Many of them are actually casual to a fault and got inside the second life hellhole too deep for my tastes (at this point i'm not even sure if the second life crowd is casual since they play this game even more than these that try hard content... but whatever) - dealing with these people really burned my patience and created a terrible vision of this game's community in my mind. If anything, most raiders tend to be more down-to-earth. But it doesn't help that everywhere there's people telling you how nice everyone is, and you kinda feel like you're actually going crazy for not feeling that.
Taking a huge break from FFXIV actually helped me in that regard. I don't blame you for feeling this way though, it's not easy to find a group you might feel comfy with - but these people are hard to come by in other aspects of life as well.

I am. I think I need a long holiday and I don't expect to be back soon. I appreciate it though I really do. I'm just so frustrated in failing at it. I just can't go on like this. It's actively making me hate this game.

[linayar]

Some people may see this as a good thing, but it can also be a problem. We are 5 expansions in and this formula has become way to repetitive. To the point where the dungeons even feel uninspired and boring. Every dungeon is now 2 trash groups > Boss > Repeat.

That's a different subjective issue altogether.

For me, the structure being the same is irrelevant when the story and the visuals are different enough.

The biggest problem with this game is outside of fomo items from events and such there is absolutely no reason to do content as it releases. Absolutely none. If you wait until the next expansion comes out you can get the best gear from that previous expansion easier and faster than they did with it was current. It lacks a reason outside of story to really want to keep up with the Jones's. Every expansion is exactly the same. It's been the same since Heavensward. The best gear is cheap as hell once the new expansion is live. Seriously if you don't care about bleeding edge content or pvp who cares? That's the issue, but on the flip side you have Wow where not playing feels like you're neglecting your spouse. We need a good middle ground and neither game has achieved it yet.

I don't see how that is an issue for FFXIV. There is one incentive that prevents everyone from just waiting on doing content: missing out on the community experience of the multiplayer aspect of the game.

If you wait, sure it'll be easier, but sometimes that's not the point, especially in an already relatively easy game like FFXIV.

But at the end of the day, if you only care for easy rewards, then that's not a problem. You don't need to keep up with anybody else.

There's also something quite particular about FFXIV that I don't see in other games. A lot of people that play it barely plays other MMOs, sometimes not even a lot of other games, I would say (at least in my experience).

Isn't that what was said about WoW players? If anything, a lot of FFXIV players probably have played either another FF game or WoW.