We need more GMs in the forums.

[Skiros]

Did we ever work out if MPK and Titanmen are the same person?

No. Why would you ever think that.

[Skiros]

I mean, I agree, but I'm sure Titanmen and his 20 alts are flocking here as I type to denounce you. /s

As long as people keep posting in that Thavnair thread, I don't think TitanMen will bother posting anything new, heh.

[Artemiz]

The sheer arrogance of demanding stricter rules and enforcment over what people can and can't say is something I will never understaned. It clearly comes from a position of believing it will be opposing views that will get punitive measures, not ones own.

These forums are moderated, the moderators just don't make posts, they are here though. I can't have been the only person who looked on in amazment as last months thread about a female only discord spent most of the week losing pages faster than it was gaining them.

[Quintessa]

Careful. I know a person who got perma'd for that very three letter word.

The forums uses a 3 strike policy so if that person got perma'd if was on their final. Though I've heard cases of people getting banned twice while already being banned because another mod looked at the offending post, which suggests they don't really communicate with each other on infractions.

they should show some more presence, though, and should actually read some of the threads where they remove posts
losing multiple pages of discussion despite it being a civil one is weird, seeing many posts where others are subtly or not so subtly insulting another, homo- or transphobic or racist posts not getting deleted is even more weird

At most a single GM(who's the head GM) will say something if the fuss is big enough and the last time that happened was when people brought up making a procedure to appeal bans.

As for posts deleted, keep in mind we all have the ability to delete our own posts, but it's safe to assume a mod nuked half a thread and it's probably because of mass reports.

[Avatre]

The gms do watch these forums. I’ve gotten spanked (for good reason in hindsight) before.

They just don’t fly off the handle at everything and anything.

I got a suspension for calling out someone on their BS and stating that nobody cares about their legend status(give you one guess who I'm referring to here). Though, I did say flying firetruck(without the fire) when I said nobody it. Something like "nobody gives a flying ....." and got suspended for it. Yet, them calling people trash and insulting everyone left, right, and center. And trolling to no ends, goes unpunished. Makes you wonder who the mods are sometimes.

[Rinhi]

How do you threaten someone here? What's he going to do, glare at his screen?
Too many of you follow him around being outraged at his outrage. Just ignore him if you hate his takes.

hey, it's the first time since the FC stuff I've interacted with him, so cut me some slack :P

character/social assassination comes to mind, if a whole FC spreads nasty rumours about you and stuff, you can bet even some your friends would distance themselves somewhat or completely, especially on the very social server that is balmung
there's quite a few google docs made by victims of exactly that, usually over misunderstandings, difference in opinions or other arbitrary reasons[/QUOTE]

And it may not be favorable that he's the one bringing it up, but he isnt wrong to ask where the GM presence is. There have been quite a few risky posts lately, even with blatant full letter Fbomb cursing. So yes, it's normal to wonder when they're going to step in more. Even if his reasons for asking are purely selfish, the question in itself still stands and is still valid. Too many people respond to everything with emotional backstories-I'm sorry about whatever little FC that had some little problem...it's irrelevant to this question so. It's not hard to look at things objectively even if you dislike someone, idk why so many struggle with that. A broken clock is right twice a day-whether you like it or not, the worst person you know sometimes makes a great point.

hell, I completely agree with it, as you could see with my edit, so no argument from me there! but I couldn't just let it stand that it's an innocent poster talking about it, is all
like, MPK's threads have really good points sometimes, as do Titanmen threads

If he's a troll, then he's a successful one because look at how many responses he gets. He posts for attention and people show right up to give it to him, right on time. Just like that roe and that lala who post bait threads too. If people are angry at trolls for trolling then they're angry at the wrong targets. Ah right, speaking of platters; ff14forums_txt although that ones harmless aaand there was a person who had an entire kiwi thread about them too. So it does happen. but not enough to be worried about.

of course he's a good troll, I'd never argue otherwise, he know that that overly virtuous gimmick works people into a shoot or even get people to agree with him at times (usually when it's toned a bit down)
it was a bit funny seeing some old troll threads being bumped where he was the OP, in response to the "I'm getting bullied" thread, while at the same time he was agreeing with the person (Titanmen) that was actually making fun of him and bumping those threads
like, that exchange solidified (for me) that he was a troll, because there's no way someone can be that oblivious when multiple people pointed it out that the guy he's agreeing with is actively trolling him, completely ignoring their posts

Everyone expects 4chan to be lawless, just as they expect Twitter to be offended and Reddit to make everything into 47 memes. Official forums shouldnt be lawless because it looks bad to potential future customers. 'well potential future customers should get thicker skin!!' and someone should run a business with that exact mindset and then come back to me so I can assist them with their EDD forms.

all 3 places are various kinds of hugboxes, from what little I've seen of them and I completely agree with you on this, too, though some thicker skin for some terminally online people would be helpful, tbh

Ah right, speaking of platters; ff14forums_txt although that ones harmless aaand there was a person who had an entire kiwi thread about them too. So it does happen. but not enough to be worried about.

first time I'm hearing about the kiwi thread, I assume it was about the balance drama a while ago?
but also, notice how he's completely ignoring my posts asking for proof? because he never provides any for his various claims when trolling and gullible people fall for it because why would someone lie about that? (and yes I know, he doesn't have to, yadda yadda, but it'd only solidify his position and argument and weaken mine, yet there's nothing, just like when he was "harassed by people from here")
I just don't like people that lie about these things

The forums uses a 3 strike policy so if that person got perma'd if was on their final. Though I've heard cases of people getting banned twice while already being banned because another mod looked at the offending post, which suggests they don't really communicate with each other on infractions.

only 3 strikes? jesus christ, considering the inane and miniscule things some people got banned for (i.e. making jokes)

As for posts deleted, keep in mind we all have the ability to delete our own posts, but it's safe to assume a mod nuked half a thread and it's probably because of mass reports.

oh no, it was definitely mod nukes, everyone involved in the discussions was completely dumbfounded why it was completely removed, though the 3 times that I've seen it, 2 of them were discussions about community experiences, so I "get" why it was removed since you gotta keep up a good image, after all
can't talk about your bad experiences on here, either, it seems, which sucks for the people that have bad experiences

not to mention that it's really, really bad that mass reports can get utilized like that

I got a suspension for calling out someone on their BS and stating that nobody cares about their legend status(give you one guess who I'm referring to here). Though, I did say flying firetruck(without the fire) when I said nobody it. Something like "nobody gives a flying ....." and got suspended for it. Yet, them calling people trash and insulting everyone left, right, and center. And trolling to no ends, goes unpunished. Makes you wonder who the mods are sometimes.

that, too, as I've said multiple times before, you see plenty of people insult and degrade others and get no repercussions, most of the time not even subtle and they've gotten for sure reported by multiple people as well - and then you see people seemingly randomly getting banned and hit by the hammer for things like saying frick, shoot or other legit non-issues
it's really, really weird moderation here at times

[Bsrking5]

Did we ever work out if MPK and Titanmen are the same person?

As MPK and Titanmen alt, i can say for certain they are different people.

[Kolsykol]

There are several twitters that mock this place, someone was LITERALLY BEING A RACIST toward African Americans today, and the post is STILL UP.

No one cares about Twitter, Twitter is a meme in and of itself.

On the second point, I see extreme amounts of racism towards '' white people '' constantly online ( to the point I've blocked terms like that altogether on Twitter because my entire timeline was just constant racism if I allowed it amongst others too yes '' black people '' included ).
It's for some absurd reason socially acceptable on the internet and very popularized amongst big Streamers and e-celebs ( tho granted there has been a little pushback as of late at least. ).
Racism is bad it doesn't matter who it's directed towards and I've seen racist statements towards '' white people '' on this forum too ( and been banned for calling it out because I let an f-bomb out which they reported me for... ).

I am assuming that you mean '' black people '' too and not actually just African Americans.
If you see someone being racist report them, don't respond to them if you get mad they might report you and get you banned...
But lets not pretend like this is something that's just about this specific group, this isn't an American politics forum and it isn't an American game.

[kpxmanifesto]

I don't see too many issues with the forums. Sure there are some troll posts, but those are easy to ignore. Can anybody link some examples of toxicity in these forums? I'm honestly pretty skeptical about it.

[SaberMaxwell]

The forums uses a 3 strike policy so if that person got perma'd if was on their final. Though I've heard cases of people getting banned twice while already being banned because another mod looked at the offending post, which suggests they don't really communicate with each other on infractions.


At most a single GM(who's the head GM) will say something if the fuss is big enough and the last time that happened was when people brought up making a procedure to appeal bans.

As for posts deleted, keep in mind we all have the ability to delete our own posts, but it's safe to assume a mod nuked half a thread and it's probably because of mass reports.

Two strike, actually, and until recently there was no punishment decay. And yes, there were two infractions, though they were two years apart and the one that got them perma'd was that three letter word despite an apology and multiple appeals.