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    I notice that PvE players pull the game down, because you don't mind OK for that, but this game is seen as an RPG game and attracts less people so less money coming in because fewer players stay (Imagine that a potential new player asks on a forum, about pvp and that without thinking it answers him, no pvp here! now without real pvp you are in the majority with the pve, but I assure you that if there is pvp, you will be largely in the minority) so less expansion on the part of the developers because they too are convinced that it will not work, So more and more difficult to develop because a pvp balance is complex to establish, so FF will evolve less quickly than the others until the day when it won't work enough and THAT FF will have forged a bad publicity. The trend will be PvPvE, games that are too pvp will adopt a more immersive story and pve games have already adopted a PvP strategy. Both sides fund the balances of a game that works at 110%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitahrox View Post
    I notice that PvE players pull the game down, because you don't mind OK for that, but this game is seen as an RPG game and attracts less people so less money coming in because fewer players stay (Imagine that a potential new player asks on a forum, about pvp and that without thinking it answers him, no pvp here! now without real pvp you are in the majority with the pve, but I assure you that if there is pvp, you will be largely in the minority) so less expansion on the part of the developers because they too are convinced that it will not work, So more and more difficult to develop because a pvp balance is complex to establish, so FF will evolve less quickly than the others until the day when it won't work enough and THAT FF will have forged a bad publicity. The trend will be PvPvE, games that are too pvp will adopt a more immersive story and pve games have already adopted a PvP strategy. Both sides fund the balances of a game that works at 110%
    This isn't a PvP focused game and I don't think it ever will be. Personally I have seen more PvP games fail than PvE focused games.
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    In fact, are you grandpa or grandma? How old are you to have such a closed mind? The pvp only clings to the pve, to be serious for pve and to be elusive in pvp it opens the experience, and puts you in difficulty even if you train. Responsiveness to each situation in both PvP and PvPvE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitahrox View Post
    In fact, are you grandpa or grandma? How old are you to have such a closed mind? The pvp only clings to the pve for serious for pve and improbable in pvp it opens the experience, and puts you in difficulty even if you train. Responsiveness to each situation in both PvP and PvPvE.
    Old enough and so probably been playing these games longer than you've been alive.
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    This game doesn't have to be 50% pvp and 50% pve That's for sure it remains final fantasy BUT 25% Pvp and 75% pve it will already be good, especially if it's not Pvp in its purest state, except with an arena system, but PvPvE, because I wonder how many players don't start FF just for that [No pvp here!] O.o ... ... ... All PvP players will chain PvE raids so this is an example of interest for all. And as final fantasy are good for PvE content..
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    I'm 34 years old and I played my first FF With Cloud, and I don't understand how it's possible that there is no real PvP existing here. In 2022 O.o ... Don't worry, pvp here won't change your usual style of play
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitahrox View Post
    In fact, are you grandpa or grandma? How old are you to have such a closed mind? The pvp only clings to the pve, to be serious for pve and to be elusive in pvp it opens the experience, and puts you in difficulty even if you train. Responsiveness to each situation in both PvP and PvPvE.
    Age has nothing to do with it. How closed minded are you to think this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitahrox View Post
    I'm 34 years old and I played my first FF With Cloud, and I don't understand how it's possible that there is no real PvP existing here. In 2022 O.o ... Don't worry, pvp here won't change your usual style of play
    How is it possible to not have 'real pvp' in 2022? Ask SE, they've been doing it, and apparently very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitahrox View Post
    BUT the only real interest of an mmo is increased competitiveness. TACTICS are to PvE what IMPROVISATION is to PVP.

    Thank you for reading.
    FFXIV is a "theme park" MMO.
    ... At what point when anyone goes to Disneyland do they need to .. "go to disneyland" better than the other people in the park?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitahrox View Post
    I'm 34 years old and I played my first FF With Cloud, and I don't understand how it's possible that there is no real PvP existing here. In 2022 O.o ... Don't worry, pvp here won't change your usual style of play
    Because PVP intially was implemented poorly and everyone just kind of moved on and enjoyed the rest of the game. It's pretty demonstrably true that an MMO can survive pretty well without it being a major component.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    FFXIV is a "theme park" MMO.
    ... At what point when anyone goes to Disneyland do they need to .. "go to disneyland" better than the other people in the park?
    tbh if disneyland were a pvp zone id go more often
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