FFXIV is super interesting BUT then why?

[Melorie]

It's fine as it is. XIV ARR reached it's way to the top without any deeper PvP element and doesn't need any further innovation or bigger reinvention in that direction since that mode is and never will be a main selling point of the game.

Tbh we do have PvP modes, and given that we have something, in my opinion they should at least refine it, get rid of bots and gather feedback from our pvp community. If this game didn't have any sort of PvP whatsoever, I wouldn't mind, but given that we have something, people aren't wrong to want to see it being taken care of. Doesn't mean we need World PvP or a PvP similar to other games.

[IDontPetLalas]

As someone who actually enjoys OW PvP and has always selected the option to create a character in games on worlds where OW PvP was supported, I have never seen OW PvP introduced in a game if it wasn't part of the game's initial design. Even then, I've seen more than one game where players complained about it since they made the consequences of their selection weren't clear to them at the start and they regretted every signing up for that world.

All of this to say that even in games that are designed to include OW PvP, it can be a hot mess to design, let allow trying to add it in as an afterthought. FFXIV's main focus is PVE.

I hope that the PVP design team gets a bit more attention going forwards given the game's success, that would be very fair. If a small section of some map was added as an OW PVP zone I could also see that being considered and that wouldn't affect anyone who wants nothing at all to do with PvP, but otherwise I agree I would leave out OW PvP it's just not at all what the game is advertised to be.

[IDontPetLalas]

It's fine as it is. XIV ARR reached it's way to the top without any deeper PvP element and doesn't need any further innovation or bigger reinvention in that direction since that mode is and never will be a main selling point of the game.

Just because it's not a "main selling point" doesn't mean that it's "fine as it is". Crafting isn't a "main selling point" either nor do I like it, but I have no problem at all with discussing potential improvements to the crafting system. I realize that there are some people who only play to craft, or they may support their FC or various statics by crafting.

PvP has its own community, if asked I would agree that in FFXIV it is smaller than some other ones and will likely always be so. That doesn't mean that it deserves *no* attention.

[Arrius]

Just because it's not a "main selling point" doesn't mean that it's "fine as it is". Crafting isn't a "main selling point" either nor do I like it, but I have no problem at all with discussing potential improvements to the crafting system. I realize that there are some people who only play to craft, or they may support their FC or various statics by crafting.

PvP has its own community, if asked I would agree that in FFXIV it is smaller than some other ones and will likely always be so. That doesn't mean that it deserves *no* attention.

I did not say that PvP doesn't need anything interesting to keep folks playing it. New outfits or rewards are always nice to have and have players something to do. It's rather because the suggestions I see in the forums are so outlandish and wild that it will just make the game as a whole worse.

So please don't assume I want PvP dead in a corner. I play Frontlines myself quite a bit.

[Kitahrox]

Except that from the beginning I respond to bots without imagination, who repeats the same to me so I want to ask are you stupid or idiot? I will compare the difference, many more players arriving on hyper heavy content, Which is superbly designed as always FF#1, Thanks to the PvPvE content relayed live twitch, subscription utility thanks to the mercenary credit system, favored help to the beginner, who will be able to ask all the questions to the mercenary (not oblige to answer), autonomous development system (change, not by the hour but by the minute), reward object (mount, clothing appearance,...,..,..) exclusive,...,.. A dlc that will add a lifespan to the game of 5 years because the pvp player does not ask for much thing belonging to well laughed,
The PvPvE and PvE maps will be separated, The game will be autonomous the old will help the newest, which in turn will help other new, because the autonomy system will be based on the victory during the event of the destruction of the black crystal protected by NeoBahamut. and so on...
Not a PvP map but PvPvE..

One thing perhaps, which could be binding, a moderator during the event may be necessary. But again I have no idea because Square Enix #1

"Not all of them are stupid, only those who don't think enough" Quote by Me Now. XD

Peace

[Arrius]

[...] so I want to ask are you stupid or idiot?

If you come over to actually insult the other posters like this instead of tackling their argument, then you have already lost in your own thread.

[Komarimono]

Except that from the beginning I respond to bots without imagination, who repeats the same to me so I want to ask are you stupid or idiot? I will compare the difference, many more players arriving on hyper heavy content, Which is superbly designed as always FF#1, Thanks to the PvPvE content relayed live twitch, subscription utility thanks to the mercenary credit system, favored help to the beginner, who will be able to ask all the questions to the mercenary (not oblige to answer), autonomous development system (change, not by the hour but by the minute), reward object (mount, clothing appearance,...,..,..) exclusive,...,.. A dlc that will add a lifespan to the game of 5 years because the pvp player does not ask for much thing belonging to well laughed,
The PvPvE and PvE maps will be separated, The game will be autonomous the old will help the newest, which in turn will help other new, because the autonomy system will be based on the victory during the event of the destruction of the black crystal protected by NeoBahamut. and so on...
Not a PvP map but PvPvE..

One thing perhaps, which could be binding, a moderator during the event may be necessary. But again I have no idea because Square Enix #1

"Not all of them are stupid, only those who don't think enough" Quote by Me Now. XD

Peace

I think it's due to a language barrier, but your ideas come off poorly written. Doesn't change the fact what you're asking for will never happen.

First, you insult people who reply, stating their reasons to not wanting it or showing reasons it wouldn't work, instead calling them bots. This is humorous since your replies are actually bot like due to the language barrier.
Second, the options you have mentioned are poorly designed and balanced. Credit system, Bonus to stats? This isn't PvP, this is creating a massive imbalance in your proposed method, resulting in players wanting to try it getting destroyed versus those who have been playing it a while.
Finally, it sounds like you just want to be the top at something, simply from time spent. If you wanted a skill based PvP experience, you'd toss out all your ideas that give power over others.

[Kitahrox]

My question is simple and well inserted and argued, so it is not an insult but rather an observation, the texts written always have the same style of response, from PvE players who are in the majority and ask me for arguments spitting on my almost on my explanations of what I would like to see.

And for information, I ask you !!! I'm not saying anything I did not impose my opinion as absolute ^^"

Here is one to the quote for you. (Riddle)

"The day PvPvE content comes out, Pve will quickly reach its speech limit compared to the amount of PvP and I will never again be inferior to the number of PVE"

What does PvE and PvP mean?

My first next answer is: read between the lines.

My second next answer is: that's almost it, keep thinking.

My next third answer will be: Ooouuurraaaaahhhh!! You get it

[MoofiaBossVal]

I would like to know if the pvp will only be present on the battelgrounds with more than 30 minutes of waiting to participate even being high level???

FFXIV is disappointing in the PvP department. There are two other game modes, Feast and Rival Wings, but you're going to need to join a discord to find people to play with, and play at certain times to get matches.

A new PvP mode is coming in a patch later this expansion but we don't know the details of it.

There is another problem, which is that FFXIV's combat is simply janky.

[myahele]

It would be nice if they worked on improving the pvp game modes we have instead of just coming up with new ones each expansion and see if it sticks