Why does this game still cater to exploiters and cheaters?

[Isaaru]

why didn't they just take garuda down the second they noticed ppl exploiting it?
Why don't they ban people who stand in the same spot fish-botting for a week straight 24/7?

Point is, they often managed to deal with bots in ffxi. so why can't they here?

1. The development team really didn't consider it an exploit. Yoshi actually stated that it wasn't easy to do the BLM burn and not just anyone could do it. Also it was Golden Week and taking down the fight would not have been fair to those who were capable of beating it without BLM burn
2. They get rid of people who bot that directly alters game mechanics. Also their budget is running dry since they are making an entirely new game from scratch while working on this one so they cannot afford an anti-botting task force like in FFXI.

[Corrderio]

1. The development team really didn't consider it an exploit. Yoshi actually stated that it wasn't easy to do the BLM burn and not just anyone could do it. Also it was Golden Week and taking down the fight would not have been fair to those who were capable of beating it without BLM burn

F*cking thank you. I still can't believe even after Yoshida shared his two cents on Gardua and BLM burns people are still bitching about it.

[Azurymber]

1. The development team really didn't consider it an exploit. Yoshi actually stated that it wasn't easy to do the BLM burn and not just anyone could do it. Also it was Golden Week and taking down the fight would not have been fair to those who were capable of beating it without BLM burn

Just like yoshi-p and the dev team didn't see a problem with people 1-shotting coblyns to level to 50 for months.
And they don't see a problem with people powerleveling even if 6 people are afk.

Thats the point i was making with this post
This game supports people who just want to spam or do what in any other game would be considered an exploit, and punishes those who want to use skill.
And then anytime someone points out the "exploits" people on the forum cry about how its fair.
I remember all the "They intended you to 1-shot coblyn" posts.

Why even have levelling or raids or endgame content? If you want everything handed to you, they might as well just let you godmode, pick your equipment, and choose your level and stats.

[rina_inverse]

Again, what all of this to you?
Did they somehow able to exploit the game mechanics and PK you? Even after PvP implemented?
Did you pissed of cause they always undercut you in market?

They not affecting you directly
I just cant see your reason for all this whining

[Antipika]

1. The development team really didn't consider it an exploit. Yoshi actually stated that it wasn't easy to do the BLM burn and not just anyone could do it. Also it was Golden Week and taking down the fight would not have been fair to those who were capable of beating it without BLM burn

They did consider that it wasn't the way Garuda should be killed, which is considering this as an exploit.

The definition of an exploit is playing a game in a way not intended by developers to earn an advantage over other players. If this was intended by DEVs, it wouldn't have been fixed.

Now are all exploit users punished? No. For Garuda SE decided not to do anything. They have almost no customers and cannot just start banning people because of their own stupid mistakes. Throw the Golden week in there, making SE unable to react quickly (besides removing the encounter temporarily, which would have upset lot of players, especially JP ones who were on holiday), and it explains their decision.

If the encounter was properly QA'd, this would have never happened, the first thing you think about when anything made by SE comes out is "Throw BLMs at it".

Data mining and reverse engineering is a form of exploit as well... You aren't playing the game the way developer intended it (i.e. finding out things by yourself rather than pulling data straight off game files). That is also punished in the EULA.

The following activities are also prohibited.
•Modifying, analysing, integrating and reverse engineering game data
•Utility creation and distribution
•Exploiting SQUARE ENIX programming that does not run as intended to gain profit or damage other players

[kro]

Just like yoshi-p and the dev team didn't see a problem with people 1-shotting coblyns to level to 50 for months.
And they don't see a problem with people powerleveling even if 6 people are afk.

Thats the point i was making with this post
This game supports people who just want to spam or do what in any other game would be considered an exploit, and punishes those who want to use skill.
And then anytime someone points out the "exploits" people on the forum cry about how its fair.
I remember all the "They intended you to 1-shot coblyn" posts.

Why even have levelling or raids or endgame content? If you want everything handed to you, they might as well just let you godmode, pick your equipment, and choose your level and stats.

I can't believe you're still comparing coblyns to PLing. On average, you could only get 15-20k an hour with no competion.

Do you realize that they actually buffed coblyn HP in one of the patches?

If 1-shotting coblyns is an exploit, do you think that 1-shotting puks (after coblyn HP got buffed) is not an exploit just because you list some of those places in your guide?

Comparing that to 300k exp/hr Natalan wolf camp parties (which only requires 2-3 active players) in 1.19 onwards is ridiculous.

[Azurymber]

I can't believe you're still comparing coblyns to PLing. On average, you could only get 15-20k an hour with no competion.

Do you realize that they actually buffed coblyn HP in one of the patches?

If 1-shotting coblyns is an exploit, do you think that 1-shotting puks (after coblyn HP got buffed) is not an exploit just because you list some of those places in your guide?

Comparing that to 300k exp/hr Natalan wolf camp parties (which only requires 2-3 active players) in 1.19 onwards is ridiculous.

But the point is that you could get to 50 on coblyns without ever getting hit, faster than what it would have taken to get to 50 prior to that.

Coblyns were the best way to 50 hands down, and you could pretty well kill them in a shot. That is an exploit as it means the best way to hit 50 was to essentially just click a mob. Nothing more. No strategy, no risk of death, just click click click.

the sad part was that a bunch of people were trying to argue that it's what was intended and that it was a great system.

The point again is that since yoshi-p took over, they keep messing up game mechanics to the point where different aspects of the game become exploitable. Instead of fixing the issue or banning exploiters they either pretend the problem doesn't exist, or say "hey we know ppl are doing this exploit and we are cool with it. eventually we will fix it but until then do whatever you want"

This includes the use of bots as while SE says they are against ToS they have no force actively banning ppl for them.

Which is why the thread is suggesting the game caters to exploiters and cheaters.

[Velhart]

why didn't they just take garuda down the second they noticed ppl exploiting it?
Why don't they ban people who stand in the same spot fish-botting for a week straight 24/7?

Point is, they often managed to deal with bots in ffxi. so why can't they here?

If I was them, I would be taking preventative measures and do what I can to make the community happy. This game is on really thin ice and only thing capable of saving it is 2.0. Start throwing ban hammers at people is off putting and does more bad than good for the community.

I say for right now, if it doesn't affect me directly like botters did to Nidhogg back in FFXI, I don't care honestly. This game is so broken in so many departments that it is to the point where I would say "Screw it, let them do what they want, shutting this client down in a few months anyways.".

The way with the current system is now, PL'ing and exploiting are easy to find. I do believe in 2.0 this will not be done as easily. Just my guess however.

[Leelya]

In short, I don't think SE can afford to part ways with paying customers. Whether they be legit or cheaters.

[Pulseczar]

all my guides combined have gotten over 100k views... so i don't really need notoriety....

lol, you're so full of yourself