Why does this game still cater to exploiters and cheaters?

[Firon]

I agree ppl need to be punished for their actions. This one guy got made @ me today cuz i said oh look all the ppl from the blm burn pt's are gone from the primal npc cuz they can't beat her normally. Yoshi while you said you could only do this with tripple meld etc i seen a full group of blms in full af do it >_>. That wasn't even single meld lol.

[Ingolf]

I agree ppl need to be punished for their actions. This one guy got made @ me today cuz i said oh look all the ppl from the blm burn pt's are gone from the primal npc cuz they can't beat her normally. Yoshi while you said you could only do this with tripple meld etc i seen a full group of blms in full af do it >_>. That wasn't even single meld lol.

People tend to get mad when you act like a douche to them. And punishing people for PLing? Are you insane?

[YuriSan]

I'll make this simple:

Crafting: lots of people botted + bot every day killing prices

Gathering: lots of people botted (like 90% of lvl 50 fishers) + bot every day killing prices

Leveling: powerleveling is essentially an exploit. Even if it isn't why bother even having levels then if SE's idea for the first 30 is to go afk while your friend runs around killing sheep

and then stuff like Garuda: Everyone that did it non stop and essentially exploited it before the fix ends up with 7/7 whereas people who try to do it legit can't get a single win.

And I'm leaving out all the nice little historical tidbits like months of 1-shotting coblyns to get to 50.

I've seen a lot of people claim to report those who are botting, SE justifies powerleveling, and there are never any consequences for exploiting systems before a fix.

I understand a lot of people will say "but if people didn't exploit this game would suck". But consider what will happen when 2.0 comes out. A bunch of people will join a game full of maxed out players who are pimped out in gear, crafting jobs, gathering, etc.

Further, since SE decided to make everything in this game 8-man and essentially require a specific set of jobs (ex. blm blm blm whm whm tank bard blm), new players will be at a massive disadvantage end game. They will be unable to compete gear-wise with ppl who botted for years prior to their arrival and amassed 100,000,000+ in gil. They won't be able to experience the 'hardcore' endgame for a very long time as most ls's seem to want at least 3 jobs to 50. And they will find that gathering + crafting is completely unprofitable, as prices for almost everything under what you can get at rank 50 have been undercut to death (and a bunch of new players only making a few 1000 as opposed to the old 10,000 + per leve, aren't going to buy-out gathering/crafting items in the wards).

SE can fix a lot of these problems, but in doing so they will just create new ones.

For example: Make leveling easier than it is and not require any good gear whatsoever
result: FFXIV becomes WoW and fails (unless you seriously think people want to do the exact same boss fight 20-times a day for 2 weeks in a row to get an item they want, since that is what the game would become)

Increase the amount of gil you get from leves back to launch level to balance economy
result: hyperinflation, due to instability in the markets people hold onto their items not sure about how to price things. People who legitimately crafted for months ragequit because their 100mil is now worthless (this happened in ffxi and resulted in a ton of people leaving).

etc....

So the main question i'm asking (and this is a question, not an argument):
Why does this game still allow the exploits, bots, etc, to continue? If there was an exploit like the blm thing in FFXI they usually fixed it within a few days and often banned people. Here, everyone openly rushes to exploit the game before its fixed. How is that sustainable in a competitive gaming environment when you are trying to attract 1000s of new people? Or is FFXIV supposed to be the new diablo 2 open battle net?

This wasn't simple at all dude!!!!!!!!!

[Firon]

People tend to get mad when you act like a douche to them. And punishing people for PLing? Are you insane?

Where did i say punish ppl for pling? Who did i act like a douche to? He got offended for no reason was not even directed at him i didn't even know he had a garuda wep. If stating facts is being a douche ill be that.

[SwordCoheir]

Frankly I just think SE is milkin them for money and are just gonna slam them at 2.0's release with a ban. It ruins months of work, removes billions/millions of gil, they have a chance to find the entire network (who farms, buys, sells, etc.), and SE gets paid that monthly fee from each account adding a sense of irony to it all. */shrug* That's just what I think, it's not like were dealing with Tanaka's laughable task force this time around after all.

[Karbine]

Why is the argument "It doesn't hurt anyone" always used as defense for exploits and cheats....its absolutely ridiculous.

Lets say theres tons of Mom and Pop stores on a street. A Walmart opens, sells everything for free.

Think about it.

[Nieshua]

When i joined XI 6 years late i couldn't buy the most expensive gear and the shit was expensive or do any EG stuff...I didn't cry about it. I buckled down and got my Lvls up. Why do you think that ppl in 2.0 should not have to do the same 2 years later. That's the price you pay for not being a pioneer so that argument is just full of hot air my friend..

[Themule]

This game is basically in pre alpha .. beta doesn't officially start until September lol

except that if this game doesn't get a large influx of new subscriptions after September, SE is going to move on.

[rina_inverse]

When i joined XI 6 years late i couldn't buy the most expensive gear and the shit was expensive or do any EG stuff...I didn't cry about it. I buckled down and got my Lvls up. Why do you think that ppl in 2.0 should not have to do the same 2 years later. That's the price you pay for not being a pioneer so that argument is just full of hot air my friend..

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[MariyaShidou]

Why is the argument "It doesn't hurt anyone" always used as defense for exploits and cheats....its absolutely ridiculous.

Lets say theres tons of Mom and Pop stores on a street. A Walmart opens, sells everything for free.

Think about it.

Except irl you don't get money falling from the sky like in-game. The rl argument is absolutely ridiculous, in-game everything are infinite and people can always get them one way or another.