so lets talk about reusing gear sets

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

so we got the new tome and new crafted gear.
tomes taken from NPC'S gear , its looks so so and based from dragoon. why the tank set is dragon? why ninjas got the same one as mages?
as for crafted its a reuse from a PVP set. and not even one that people love that much.
this after 0 new crated sets from 70-90? we starting to get less dungeons and now less new gear sets? now don't try to say its because new classes or races. new classes don't have unique sets and new race don't have unique body. don't say "just glam it" as it sucks to have the first thing you think when you look at new gear you will work to get for the next 3-6 month "well i just glam it" and this on top of all the nft talk.
don't like where it go. it just strange as they just don't do gear sets not even for the cash shop.
what you think of it?

The info on why it looks like DRG gear is below. Spoiler tags because Endwalker spoilers.

The radiant gear is based on the gear that the EW NPC Radiants wear since the scales have shielding properties against Blasphemy. It looks like Dragoon gear because the great Wyrm Vrtra gave his scales to make the armor for his Radiant soldiers. In the cutscenes, they show the raw patch of skin on Vrtra's side where scales were donated.

I was very very eager and hoping that the Radiant npc gear would be offered as useable armor so it was great to see it arrive.

Also, a lot of reskins/recolors and dye option unlock were requested in the glam thread so the player base has been asking for this.

I for one am glad to see the bonewicca sets redone in anything not gold. As for the pvp armor recolors, I did not like the Roman pvp style sets and I don't like the crafted ones but I know many people who refuse to pvp who are glad to have them.

The other pvp recolors added in EW were among some of my all time favorites and very glad to see the alternative.

[Iscah]

its not its just how different coloring works

What's "not"? The metal being more detailed?

The effect they've done on the metal isn't just "how different colouring works". They haven't just applied a different colour, they've gone over it and added detailed shading and texture that isn't on the original.

Let me grab the close-up of the hand jewellery again:

It's not just changing the colour of the existing model. They've gone over it and added a detailed texture of dark and light that simply isn't there on the original. Even the waist chain has gone from being flat to textured metal. Also the leaves twining up the arm seem to be less pixellated, though that could be the screenshot quality.

It's probably all a 2D effect and not changing the model itself, but it's very effective nevertheless.

the problem for them is 2 things
1 its looks like a DRAGOON set for all classes. then its a set taken from NPC's. its a new low for tome gear

And the Genji set two expansions ago made everyone look like a samurai. And the Edengate set made melee look like healers (the horror!).

It's not the end of the world that we get one set to dress up as a different class's style. Different styles and ideas are good.

As for it being "taken from NPCs", I like that it gives the sets a logic and a purpose for existing in the game world. They make sense in the setting instead of wondering where the in-game makers got the idea.

I honestly can't fathom why it should be some kind of insult for the models to be used as NPC gear instead of being kept exclusive to us.

You mean Heavensward since a lot of glamour in HW is just recolours/dyable versions of ARR gear.

And ARR gear was a constant recycling of its own gear a lot of the time. Recycling of gear sets has been baked into the game from the beginning.

(Though I still think Endwalker's sets needed more shuffling of roles.)

[ElizanderNorisse]

Regarding the first tomestones sets, I was slightly disappointed that they didn’t give us Kain’s outfit for the maiming jobs, except his spear which is given to Dragoon... I liked him in FFIV & Dissidia.

[Ath192]

I hope they stop doing this. They out so much effort into MSQ scenes that we see maybe once or twice in our lifetime while playing through it, but then get lazy on things we stare at every day (glams) like if I could choose between slashing 20% of voice acting in msq in exchange for all original and dyeable armor sets I would take that deal in a heartbeat. Sorry but there is no denying glams is such a huge portion of this game that if they could invest in something, it should be this. I hope they upgrade the graphics to keep the game fresh as well.

[GrizzlyTank]

If they are going to reuse sets they could at least flip around on the roles so to say tank get the earlier melee variant, caster get ranged and so on.

[kaynide]

Not saying I agree or disagree with the situation, but this is kind of a norm for the “leveling” dungeons. For the most part the few leveling dungeons feature recolors of previous-but-obsolete dungeon gear, often on jobs that didn’t have them before (eg. Stormblood’s Ghost Barque Mask of Maiming from Sirensong is the same model as the crafted Beech Mask of Healing).

Personally I liked how previously tank-only or caster-only gear might feature on other jobs…but yeah, I will say the options this time were somewhat lackluster. I had hoped to see something like the Paglth’an sets shuffled (the “bat” caster set used on ninja for example).

Re: Recolors

On recoloring I actually would love more of this. My main tank set has always been the cuirass given early on because of the red highlights. It is hard to find a cuirass with sub-colors (not the dye parts) that I like.

[Kuroka]

As for it being "taken from NPCs", I like that it gives the sets a logic and a purpose for existing in the game world. They make sense in the setting instead of wondering where the in-game makers got the idea.

Yet Id prefered the Exodus set for the tome and the new one first... idk...

Not saying I agree or disagree with the situation, but this is kind of a norm for the “leveling” dungeons. For the most part the few leveling dungeons feature recolors of previous-but-obsolete dungeon gear, often on jobs that didn’t have them before (eg. Stormblood’s Ghost Barque Mask of Maiming from Sirensong is the same model as the crafted Beech Mask of Healing).

Yes but thats exaclty the point, its role swapped, so for example a ninja can use my beloved healer set and it dyes not quite the same, which is pretty neat.

[Terin]

Not gonna lie, I've been a little disappointed how many recolors I've recognized. That's always one of the best things about new dungeons, to me.

At least the AF sets are wholly unique... right?

[LisSquid]

I find it bonkers that we got so many reskins in EW and not a single one swapped roles. That's the whole point of why I love when they do reskins! The colors may be a big different, but it lets me swap some old favourites around. The fact they're near carbon copies and no one got anything new (aside from, like, leather tint and that. Or straight up a version of an old dyable gearset that can't be dyed) drove me up a wall.

[Naoki34]

I was also triggered when I saw that the new crafted 90 set had the rotten skin of the PvP set with an ancient Rome feel.

It's not even in the Endwalker vibe, I don't mind that garlemaldais are between a certain style and something else, but this skin recycling sucks.

I was expecting a cool new skin that would absolutely make me want to get that new set for the glam, nothing, it just sucks recycled skin.

That he recycled skins, it would have been nice too the Ivalice skin where it was to cast and heal a kind of kimono, but in a dyable version, I would have found it too cool, but here... At some point we were treated to Void Ark, Dun Scaith, etc. dyable raid skins.

I guess the "cool" skins are on the Mogstation, it's a shame.