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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Lana Arunika
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    Request: Can GNB get that SAM range extension on Continuation?

    Rather small request so I'll keep this simple.

    In this most recent patch, the dev team gave a rather simple buff to SAM, making it so that it's Iaijutsu abilities can be used within a 6 yalm range instead of a 3 yalm range.

    Can GNB get that change made to continuation, too? One of the big problems with Gunbreaker is that continuation takes up so much OGCD time, and we do it so often, that it makes weaving defensive CDs and steering the boss clunky and annoying compared to the other tanks.

    The former can't really be avoided without changing continuation on a core level, but the latter could be fixed super easily by just giving us a bit of added range on continuation, allowing us to weave them in while moving away from the boss to steer it more comfortably. It would let Gunbreakers do the same stutter step that the other tanks can.

    No other tanking job has quite such a hard time doing basic tanking tasks as Gunbreaker does. This would just make our lives a little bit easier.

    That's all, really.
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    Range increase on Continuation abilities would be wonderful. It's really disappointing that they did it for SAM and not GNB, despite it being a request since the job's release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satarn View Post
    Range increase on Continuation abilities would be wonderful. It's really disappointing that they did it for SAM and not GNB, despite it being a request since the job's release.
    Oh, totally. I remember thinking it was a good idea since SHB's launch, but seeing SAM get the treatment this patch just gave me a moment of "Wait, but what about us, though!?"
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    It is so weird that none of the tanks got anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    It is so weird that none of the tanks got anything.
    Yeah. I kinda like to joke-hate on PLD as a meme, but even I think they could've gotten some small potency buff. The issues with DRK and WAR having too little and too much healing respectively shouldn't at least matter in the raid tier, but PLD dmg and GNB movement is a bit of an issue going into savage.
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    That may be nice
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    Ryaduera Tengille
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    It is so weird that none of the tanks got anything.
    Tanks usually don't get adjustments on savage patches, nor are large adjustments ever made on x.05 patches in general. We'll see what the future holds yet. GNB is for the most part fine so if this change happens it probably wasn't on the priority list for a savage patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaduera View Post
    Tanks usually don't get adjustments on savage patches, nor are large adjustments ever made on x.05 patches in general.
    Eeeh that's debatable. WAR and DRK both got changes for Deltascape and WAR later got a whole rework right at the Sigmascape release patch. They've also kept repeating through StB that they can't rework MCH or DRK until next expansion, but then SHB has seen multiple job reworks in its time.
    There isn't exactly any logical "pattern" that SE always follows, people just like to assume there is, by relying on their confirmation bias.

    As for large adjustments - nobody expected those, but range increase like asked here is literally what SAM got. Likewise, PLD expected potency changes, just like what you could see on a few DPS jobs. Even slapping some weak heals on DRK wouldn't be too big of a change. Meanwhile NIN got their entire Raiju combo reworked just now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satarn View Post
    Eeeh that's debatable. WAR and DRK both got changes for Deltascape and WAR later got a whole rework right at the Sigmascape release patch. They've also kept repeating through StB that they can't rework MCH or DRK until next expansion, but then SHB has seen multiple job reworks in its time.
    There isn't exactly any logical "pattern" that SE always follows, people just like to assume there is, by relying on their confirmation bias.

    As for large adjustments - nobody expected those, but range increase like asked here is literally what SAM got. Likewise, PLD expected potency changes, just like what you could see on a few DPS jobs. Even slapping some weak heals on DRK wouldn't be too big of a change. Meanwhile NIN got their entire Raiju combo reworked just now.
    In fairness, NIN urgently needed it's Raiju combo reworked.

    But yeah, so many of the DPS classes got really small tweaks and QoL adjustments, there's nothing stopping them from adding a few yalms onto Continuation's range, exactly like they did to Samurai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    In fairness, NIN urgently needed it's Raiju combo reworked.

    But yeah, so many of the DPS classes got really small tweaks and QoL adjustments, there's nothing stopping them from adding a few yalms onto Continuation's range, exactly like they did to Samurai.
    Oh no, don't get me wrong - I am incredibly happy with what they did with NIN and it was definitely dearly needed. When I saw the 6.0 version I was 100% going to drop the job despite raiding on it the last two tiers, but now I'm back to using it as my go-to dps (still needs potency buffs, but at least it feels good again). I'm just saying that it's not like they aren't doing changes in patches like that sometimes.

    In fact, since changing Continuation range would have virtually zero effect on balance, they could even do it as a hotfix, as it doesn't require any number-testing whatsoever. Unlikely they would do that of course, but they could certainly just slap into on top of any other job changes quite easily.
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