Thread: Patch 6.05 Notes

Kind of disappointed they didn't do anything about the awful color choice of P3's arena.

A lot of people were expecting nerfs to Reaper/Sage and Warriors. Reaper was barely touched and everything else was left alone.

Originally Posted by Vonleo

A lot of people were expecting nerfs to Reaper/Sage and Warriors. Reaper was barely touched and everything else was left alone.

Utterly nonsensical, I sure hope they address it directly. Why would any group EVER not take a sage at the current numbers they are doing? I think most healers were prepping simply on the premise that sage was absolutely going to get nerfed, their dps numbers are utterly absurd.

4.05, massive balance changes.
5.05, massive balance changes.

6.0 worse balanced than 4.0 and 5.0, almost zero balance changes and entirely miss all worst offenders.

Very hard to comprehend.

Originally Posted by Furious

Utterly nonsensical, I sure hope they address it directly. Why would any group EVER not take a sage at the current numbers they are doing? I think most healers were prepping simply on the premise that sage was absolutely going to get nerfed, their dps numbers are utterly absurd.

4.05, massive balance changes.
5.05, massive balance changes.

6.0 worse balanced than 4.0 and 5.0, almost zero balance changes and entirely miss all worst offenders.

Very hard to comprehend.

Hey I agree with you and I was expecting nerfs to Reaper/Sage AND Warriors because Warrior's self sustain is just insane.

Originally Posted by Furious

Utterly nonsensical, I sure hope they address it directly. Why would any group EVER not take a sage at the current numbers they are doing? I think most healers were prepping simply on the premise that sage was absolutely going to get nerfed, their dps numbers are utterly absurd.

4.05, massive balance changes.
5.05, massive balance changes.

6.0 worse balanced than 4.0 and 5.0, almost zero balance changes and entirely miss all worst offenders.

Very hard to comprehend.

Not really? Scholars with Expedient feels really good to use. Lots of people I know who is taking Scholar to savage raids says their team prefers Expedient for that movement speed buff that doubles as a mitigation tool. Plus, recovery is much easier on Scholar than on SGE.

Plus, SCH have raid buff, which only get stronger under raid buff stacking.

Originally Posted by Vonleo

A lot of people were expecting nerfs to Reaper/Sage and Warriors. Reaper was barely touched and everything else was left alone.

Why would they nerf Sage? Currently in high-end content they're 4th in Healing Per Second. Scholar beats Sage by 1%.

Originally Posted by Haseno

Why would they nerf Sage? Currently in high-end content they're 4th in Healing Per Second. Scholar beats Sage by 1%.

hps is a terrible measure of healing power anyway since its all spikes rather than constant healing

Originally Posted by Recon1o6

hps is a terrible measure of healing power anyway since its all spikes rather than constant healing

HPS isn't a terrible measure. HPS just doesn't add context to all situations where healing is necessary. The fact remains that Sage and their healing potential is not broken. They feel more powerful than they actually are because of how Eukrasia functions by turning your spells into improved instant-cast abilities. Being able to bypass cast-times is amazing, but the Sage is still restricted to GCD cooldowns and oGCD abilities the same as Scholar.

The skill ceiling for Sage and Scholar are both high. Scholar to an even greater amount.

Originally Posted by Haseno

HPS isn't a terrible measure.

HPS is absolutely a terrible measure. The messier a run and the less mitigation your group uses, the more you need to heal and the better your HPS. If a WHM spams Cure III immediately when damage happens and a Sage lets their HoT's and oGCD's do the work, the Sage will have bad HPS and the WHM won't. Many top healers will end a run with grey logs on healing, despite 0 deaths, simply because the group played efficiently. Sage has quite a lot of free oGCD's and can heal for free for longer before being forced to dip into GCD's.

Not saying Sage needs a nerf though, SCH and AST are comparatively more than fine when it comes to heal toolkit. If anything WHM needs a buff, because it's far behind.