when to bring beast master in

[aveyond-dreams]

I'd rather not spend any resources adding pokemon style limited Beastmaster when after 8 years Summoners still don't have Ramuh, Leviathan, Shiva, or Alexander. I'd much rather it be a full job even if that means a smaller quantity of better monsters to call on. Hunter with animal pet is a pretty standard trope in many video games, there is no reason why that has to be so "special" as to be locked out of the most relevant and current content this game has to offer.

[Floortank]

They can also experiment with new ideas with limited jobs, and something like Beastmaster, for example, could be as unbalanced as BLU, and people would be happy about it, not angry.

In what universe? The moment it gets announced as unlimited the entire fanbase will toss it in the bin.

[Welsper59]

please no. no more limited jobs. real jobs that are different from what we currently have. i dont understand the obsession with limited jobs and jobs that are just reskins of current jobs.

The focus is the required balance. It'd be exceptionally difficult to maintain the semblance of balance the game currently has if jobs like BLU were allowed into the foray. Not impossible, but it'd end up involving nerfing practically everything that makes BLU unique. That would also result in devaluing many spells even further into oblivion.

The beauty (and severe detriment) of limited jobs is that they can just do whatever they fuck they want. Balance essentially means next to nothing. It's its own content and they can create story quests and so on to their hearts content.

For one reason or another though, BLU is still treated the same way that a lot of old content was when they were introduced. Kind of half-assed, but certainly more effort put into place than others (e.g. Squadrons). A lot of the "issues" with BLU come from the fact it's so heavily limited in content, be it because of the lengthy time of being very low on level cap (doesn't have to be current) or because it can't access other areas it'd be fun to use it for even in smaller pre-mades (24-man raids). The same would likely happen for any other limited job, so while I wouldn't say no to BST as a limited job, I am also going to look at it the same "meh" way I do BLU due to its level and content limitations.

[ElizanderNorisse]

I’ll admit that I wouldn’t want it to be a limited job. Would love to have Lyon, Pagaga, and Clarricie in the job quest though.
With Lyon as our mentor perhaps.

[van_arn]

I'm all for another limited job option, so long as it's sufficiently weird to set itself apart from BLU.

[MsQi]

please no. no more limited jobs. real jobs that are different from what we currently have. i dont understand the obsession with limited jobs and jobs that are just reskins of current jobs.

They can't be very creative with "normal jobs" since those have to fit the trinity and throughput based paradigm.

[Kandraxx]

They should first concentrate on making the majority of dps jobs fun to play. Because when I need a special mouse+perfectly worked out keybinds + still an addon on top of it then there’s a problem.

WoW has learned that more buttons don’t equal more fun.

[Absurdity]

WoW has learned that more buttons don’t equal more fun.

Funny how the game actually became less fun around the same time they started to heavily prune abilities, also funny how they backpedalled on that stance with the last expansion and added a bunch of those removed abilities back into the game.

[Duskane]

I don't know why beast master has to be limited like its clearly not like Blue mage in any sense
and even if it was what would they do? copy paste blue mage formula making blue less unique?just lord of verminion 2?

[Seraphor]

I don't know why beast master has to be limited like its clearly not like Blue mage in any sense
and even if it was what would they do? copy paste blue mage formula making blue less unique?just lord of verminion 2?

The issue is how the pet would work.

Does the Beastmaster get one pet that functions as an integral part of a strict rotation? Fine, normal job.

But if as many expect, Beastmaster is about using multiple pets that do different things, or taming pets yourself in the wild, then that's not going to work outside a limited job.

There's a reason why SMN has been pruned back to what it is today, and why summons aren't real pets anymore, they're just an extension of you that visually appears as a separate entity.