Rival Wings is completely dead

[YukikoKurosawa]

At least Primal Side.

This subforum seems to be dead as well but maybe devs actually read it so here goes.

Since roughly 3 weeks before Endwalker I noticed anytime I'd que for RW, no matter the time of day, it would not pop. I would immediately have an estimated 30min wait time that would go on for hours. One time, during prime time, I forgot about my que completely while I messed around with other things in game, afked, etc. and than when I came back noticed over 2 hours in it still had not popped.

Outside of 1 discord server I'm in that occassionally hosts events, it's completely and utterly abandoned by the entirety of the Primal datacenter. It's as if the community collectively decided to stop playing it one day. Some might argue it's because it's not on the roulette, well it wasn't on the roulette ever and yet people still played it regularily. It was arguably the best game mode since it wasn't dominated by discord premades constantly so you would have an easy 50/50 win ratio, and running around in mechs is just awesome.

So I don't know why everyone just randomly decided to stop playing it. It's extremely bizarre, you'd think there'd be at least enough to make games still pop but no, it's completely dead now. What happened? And what does Square Enix plan to do about it? The only reason frontlines isn't dead too is because it's on the duty roulette. Nobody likes it, premades ruin it half the time especially during special events, games take too long, and it's just boring.

Why don't you add Rival Wings and other game modes to the daily roulette? There's no reason we can't have an extra daily to get exp from, making the grind for leveling alts a bit quicker while simultaneously riving these dead modes. I know you intend to release a new game mode at some point this expansion but it's going to be dead on arrival unless you put it on the roulette because this community has made it clear it doesn't care about pvp and only does it for daily exp and glams/mounts.

If not then may as well just delete pvp altogether, roll the exp into other dailies and give other means to get the glams and mounts. Having only one active game mode that's only active because of the daily reward where nobody actually enjoys playing it is really a sorry state to leave pvp in, it's better off not even existing. It's been almost 10 years and you've completely failed to make the playerbase engaged with PvP outside of a daily carrot-on-the-stick for one single mode that sucks, you made one decent game mode but now nobody plays it mysteriously, you plan on releasing a brand new one soon but that's doomed to fail unless it's put on the roulette. PvP is so uncared for in this community that the official forum for it is basically dead. Please consider either remedying the problem with PvP right now or just removing it and stop wasting resources on something that isn't being bothered with by the playerbase.

[Naoki34]

Despite what SE tries to do every time, FFXIV is NOT a fun PvP game with interesting rewards. And the fact that the only interesting rewards PvP can provide on FFXIV are glamours and you'll notice that the latest skins are from Shadowbringer.

PvP on FFXIV is even worse than on WoW.

[Jinglybell]

Unfortunately RW only queues when they're doing moogle tomes or if people manage to drum up enough interest in the revival wings discord (And I think they almost always schedule it on a Saturday when they do? idr) The expansion is still fairly fresh so I haven't heard of them scheduling anything recently. They also haven't added any new pvp rewards at all (unless you count the level 8 dark matter which you shouldn't lol) Honestly I wish they'd add it to FL roulette its definitely more fun then secure that's for sure.

[OskarXCI]

People stopped playing it once they got the mount from it and they would rather play the mode with the shortest queue times. Rival Wings will remain dead outside of Moogle Treasure and discord events unless they give it a daily bonus like Frontline.

It also doesn't help that the unlock quest for it is hidden away at the Wolves' Den Pier while the unlock quest for Frontline is at Grand Company HQs.

The Battle Pass feature coming with 6.1 won't help Rival Wings's case unless the BP requires that you play some amount of RW. They said that you can make progress on the BP by playing any PvP mode, which essentially means: just stick with Crystal Conflict and/or Frontline. Don't bother with RW.

[Hammerhorn]

It all comes down to what the daily is , it’s the only thing that will get enough people to do anything.

[Divinemights]

The problem with NA and Rival Wing in general is their standard Horde Stampede doesn't work in that mode
If you are group together and you are making yourselves vulnerable to mecha's aoe attacks.
If new players bindless follow the group and expecting it works like Onsal Hakir, it is frustration waiting for them.
JP on other hand is not playing with this Horde Stampede mindset so their Rival Wing is functional.

[MagiusNecros]

The long queues for Rival Wings and the need for 100 victories for the Mecha Gorilla mount is too much of a slog for me to consider running.

If queues were more frequent I'd consider it.

As long as dailies are mindless zergfests I doubt many players will bother with the other PvP content.

[Araxes]

There is a Reason no one plays pvp after they have done their Roulette for extra tomes/exp.

Its just not fun (since Stormblood). I know there are a FEW that like how it is but after the majority did their daily, they are sitting on dry ground too. RW has no daily roulette and there is no Event going on so no one plays it.

[YukikoKurosawa]

The long queues for Rival Wings and the need for 100 victories for the Mecha Gorilla mount is too much of a slog for me to consider running.

If queues were more frequent I'd consider it.

As long as dailies are mindless zergfests I doubt many players will bother with the other PvP content.

So those of us who never got the mount are just screwed then? Might as well just move it somewhere else since the community has decided to collectively abandon this content because they got theirs. Or I dunno, do the logical thing and put RW on the daily roulette already.

[Moonlite]

So those of us who never got the mount are just screwed then? Might as well just move it somewhere else since the community has decided to collectively abandon this content because they got theirs. Or I dunno, do the logical thing and put RW on the daily roulette already.

They can't and we all know it. The system isn't advanced enough to differentiate sizes needed. We have nothing in the game that suggests this would even be possible. More realistic is put the mount on the vendor or moogle event.