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    Disabling Hunt for CW players

    This is frustrating when CW players keep getting hunt/marks instrad of local players..especially during this time around when theres “instances” for EW area..earlier i cant even get in instances as it congested.can SE Dev team PLS lock hunt only for LOCAL world players??we paid the sub and we didnt get the experience to kill mark/hunt. Dont even start with train hunt..they will do it among themselves..not everyone playing the game at the same time to follow this train hunt..pls do something SE..
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    Have you asked your local players if they want that? Or don't they also enjoy being able to go to other worlds and get a much larger amount of hunts per day than otherwise possible?
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    Considering world visit is not working except in the early AM off peak hours, it's not the off world players that are causing congested.

    It's all the raiders who normally don't hunt but are farming clusters and nuts for materia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Considering world visit is not working except in the early AM off peak hours, it's not the off world players that are causing congested.

    It's all the raiders who normally don't hunt but are farming clusters and nuts for materia.
    The zone I was in was hit by a hunt train last night and the train runners kept yelling at people to "wait for the players from other worlds" and so after like twenty minutes they arrived, decimated the boss in three seconds and while they told everyone to stop complaining about not getting full rewards, actively lied about how hunts work to new players painting it like their was was the only, and official, way to play. They also didn't res anyone who died during the boss so, you know. Cool people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewslam View Post
    The zone I was in was hit by a hunt train last night and the train runners kept yelling at people to "wait for the players from other worlds" and so after like twenty minutes they arrived, decimated the boss in three seconds and while they told everyone to stop complaining about not getting full rewards, actively lied about how hunts work to new players painting it like their was was the only, and official, way to play. They also didn't res anyone who died during the boss so, you know. Cool people.
    No hunt train waits for 20 minutes for anything. It's a waste of time for everyone involved. If I tried to convince people to wait around 20 minutes before starting a train, half the train would immediately go find the marks and pull. The sooner stuff dies, the sooner it will respawn to be killed again.

    Sounds more like you're describing people showing up for one of the new FATEs in Thavnair or the final zone. The hunt community doesn't control FATEs and there are far more people trying to farm those FATEs when they spawn right now than will ever attend a hunt train.

    I'm sorry you had a bad experience but don't go blaming the wrong people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No hunt train waits for 20 minutes for anything. It's a waste of time for everyone involved. If I tried to convince people to wait around 20 minutes before starting a train, half the train would immediately go find the marks and pull. The sooner stuff dies, the sooner it will respawn to be killed again.

    Sounds more like you're describing people showing up for one of the new FATEs in Thavnair or the final zone. The hunt community doesn't control FATEs and there are far more people trying to farm those FATEs when they spawn right now than will ever attend a hunt train.

    I'm sorry you had a bad experience but don't go blaming the wrong people.
    It was a hunt train my dude, not a fate. The enemy was right in front of us. So get out of here with that. They got huffy when an A rank spawned nearby and other people tried to go after it too, demanding people wait until after they'd killed the one they were making people wait for the other world folk for. Once it was done they cleared out the entire zone and moved to the other instances to do the same.
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    Honestly, in my opinion, they should just do away with all A ranks. Leave B ranks for the weekly and daily bills. And S ranks are fun to try and get to spawn and get to.
    Reduce the cost of things that need hunt currency.

    A ranks are always the cause of so many issues with the hunts, it seems.
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    While I don't really like hunt trains anymore because of the shear amount of people that appears to shank a mob (rendering the target invisible for me). I don't think it fair to disable hunts from cross server.

    For one, at the moment, these Wanderers are kind of stuck in the world that they are in at the moment.

    And two, I would be lying if I said that I wouldn't be doing the same thing, if my system allowed it.

    Also,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No hunt train waits for 20 minutes for anything. It's a waste of time for everyone involved. If I tried to convince people to wait around 20 minutes before starting a train, half the train would immediately go find the marks and pull. The sooner stuff dies, the sooner it will respawn to be killed again.

    If true, then that is very unusual. Someone would have pulled way long before that. No one on any hunt will wait 20 min for a pull. At most 5 min. Unless there was no tank/healers at all....
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    Last edited by RegularJoe; 12-13-2021 at 11:31 AM.

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    Tbh, I don't see why we need Cross World hunts. If it was the other way around and Hunts were disabled for CW, then someone came posting a thread asking to enable it I get the feeling they'd be shot down immediately. I think we're just too addicted to the massive amount of easy rewards to want to change it now.

    Off world players can indeed cause congestion. I've seen a few off-peak trains, such as midnight, that were advertised CW and ended up with 350+ players and just fell apart.

    It increases congestion issues, makes Materia and Experts worthless, takes away the feeling of server community and it's just too good a source of tomes and nuts. I feel it'd be healthier overall to make Hunts local World only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Tbh, I don't see why we need Cross World hunts. If it was the other way around and Hunts were disabled for CW, then someone came posting a thread asking to enable it I get the feeling they'd be shot down immediately. I think we're just too addicted to the massive amount of easy rewards to want to change it now.

    Off world players can indeed cause congestion. I've seen a few off-peak trains, such as midnight, that were advertised CW and ended up with 350+ players and just fell apart.

    It increases congestion issues, makes Materia and Experts worthless, takes away the feeling of server community and it's just too good a source of tomes and nuts. I feel it'd be healthier overall to make Hunts local World only.
    Cross worlds hunts prevent a tiny group of players controlling the hunts on their world and locking out the rest of the community. We already see that on worlds that run trains on a strict schedule. Those who can't be online at those specific times of day miss out. With cross world, they have the option of joining other available hunts.

    Congestion is always going to be a problem during new content releases. It happened before world visit was added in Stormblood. It will continue to happen as long as players have a virtually unlimited source of currencies they can farm with little effort required on their part.

    The real problem is hunts are too lucrative. What SE needs to do is change the reward structure. Remove the non-hunt currency rewards altogether or at the very least cap what a player can earn via the hunt each day. If players aren't getting rewards other than seals/nuts, they're a lot less likely to attend.
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