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    Hey guys remember when cosmetic DLC was first implemented in video games, and people argued back then that it wouldnt change the video game industry and how games were created.

    Man, the deja-vu is coming back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    Hey guys remember when cosmetic DLC was first implemented in video games, and people argued back then that it wouldnt change the video game industry and how games were created.

    Man, the deja-vu is coming back.
    Remember when people were outraged at a $5 golden horse armor in Oblivion? Ya those were the days. Too bad that' didn't stick around and people are now somehow ok with $20 skins.....We should have pushed back harder back then.
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    Louder for those in the back: the sky is not, in fact, falling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    Louder for those in the back: the sky is not, in fact, falling.
    Yet. /10chars
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Yet. /10chars
    Nah, it already fell lol.
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    I feel so strongly about this topic i actually came to the forums for the first time.

    i will not support a game that has NTF's in it. They are a scam and companies/people pushing them ought to be ashamed of themselves. it's your game i get that; however, if NTF's are put into the game that will be the very last month you get a single dime of my money.

    Just thought you might like to hear from an actual customer and not one of the corporate shills trying to pretend we want this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashmoden View Post
    i will not support a game that has NTF's in it...snip...Just thought you might like to hear from an actual customer and not one of the corporate shills trying to pretend we want this.
    I don't think they are corporate shills, it's more likely they are "Crypto Bros" trying to find more suckers for their ponzi schemes.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 01-04-2022 at 05:10 AM.

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    I don't know what NFTs are and frankly I don't wanna know, all I'm going to do is just continue enjoying the game and ignore anything to do with the NFTs whatever they are.
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    Since it is being brought up again.
    You won't own shit if you buy the NFT of a game item. If it is an online game once the game server go down you won't have access to the item in question anymore.
    If it is a single player game you don't have any more ownership over the item than you already had when you bought the game. As long as no online server is required you can play this game with said item to your hearts content.

    Also you won't have any rights over the actual 3d model of the item. It would still be illegal for you to extract the model from the game files and sell it online.

    As someone who works in the industry I have a really hard time finding the though of items across games neat or anything new that wasn't already possible before NFTs. We've already games where when you had save data of an older title in the franchise you'd unlock items that referenced those games for decades now.
    But just to break it down a bit unless we're staying within the same franchise and same game engine and game type porting of random items between games is not feasible. Because the developers would need to basically account for every possible item to be applicable to their game no matter if it makes sense or not.

    Not only from an aesthetic point it wouldn't look great to have ff14 armor pieces in I dunno the newest mario game. Which has a completely different artstyle.
    Then you have gameplay differences. Let's port over cod guns to the next animal crossing or Hollow knight game.

    I am aware that I am choosing very weird examples here. But that is to make a point on the vast differences of artstyles and gameplay. But sure let's stay within the same franchise. How about items from Mass Effect 1 in the upcoming Mass Effect.
    This will use a completely different game engine. Besides the model and texture looking outdated in terms of graphical fidelity you'll have incompatible shaders that would need to be redone. Also the character rigs will be different. So it wouldn't just end with creating a new shader and importing the textures you'd also need to make the item work with the new way for character rigs are being handled. Then we'd also take proportions of characters into account. Not every armor piece accessory fits every other character.

    There are so many different problems that would pop up that there is no way this promise of "porting over your bought items to other games" is realistic. And as said before if a developer wants this to be a thing. They can do that with obviously hand picked items that the players might have earned via achievements or bough in their microtransactions store.
    None of this needs blockchain technology. If you need proof. Steam Marketplace has been doing something very similar for decades now way before the invention of NFTs.
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    Last edited by Miiu; 01-04-2022 at 05:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miiu View Post
    Since it is being brought up again.
    You won't own shit if you buy the NFT of a game item. If it is an online game once the game server go down you won't have access to the item in question anymore.

    Lot of people don't understand this part.

    At the end of the day, it's entirely up to the software to interpret what some NFT actually means and does. If the servers go down, you have a token that says you "own" a thing but no actual thing.

    It'd be like having the deed to a house or land that doesn't exist anymore. You have a piece of paper. Congrats.
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    Last edited by Arzalis; 01-04-2022 at 05:07 AM.

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