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  1. #111
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    I hope that FF14 will avoid the current NFT scam.

    It makes no sense to push it on a product like FF14. They stand to lose far more than they gain with it.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juun View Post
    Am I the only person who doesnt understand what an NFT is and how it will be added to the game? From what I understand its a crypto currency but why is it bad if you get multiple ways to pay for the game?
    And to add the reason WHY people are against it.

    NFTS ARE A CRAZY UNREGULATED PSEUDO STOCKMARKET GAMBLING SCHEME IN WHICH THE ONE WHO HOLDS THE SHARE AT THE END IS THE ONE THAT CAN SAY GOODBYE TO ALL THEIR MONEY FOR A STUPID PIC OF AN UGLY PRIMATE.

    AND PEOPLE FEEL THAT SE IS A COMPANY THAT SHOULD RATHER FOCUS ON BRINGING JOY THROUGH GAMES TO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF RIDING WITH BELOVED CHARACTERS ON A DIGITAL SCAM SCHEME TO MAKE SOME QUICK BUCKS FOR THE CORPO SUITS UP THERE. CAUSE THE ONLY ONE WHO REALLY WINS IN THIS SCHEME IS THE CREATOR THEMSELVES AND THEY EVEN STEAL ART FROM ACTUAL ARTISTS TO SUBMIT IT TO THIS NFT SCAM SCHEME.

    IT IS NEITHER A CURRENCY YOU CAN BUY ACTUAL GOODS WITH AND NEITHER IS IT REAL ART YOU WANT TO HOLD ONTO. IT IS A TRADE TOKEN LIKE A STOCKMARKET SHARE THAT HAS NO VALUE BEYOND WHAT VALUE PEOPLE PUT INTO IT AND WITHIN A NOT REGULATED MARKET THAT IS A BUBBLE THAT CAN BURST AT ANY MOMENT.

    Hope that is enough for a reason to be against it, if not...well...i weep for your non existing morals.
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 01-03-2022 at 11:11 PM.

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    NFT's = Unsubbing

    Its pretty simple folks, if you add NFT to the game. I'm done, sub cancelled. I do not like this shit in my games.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    i didnt see a future where devs would sell dlc before it was even developed, but season passes are a common thing
    "everyone is overeating about the horse armor" they said, "its an optional purchase" they said....
    And this is exactly what they want to have happen with NFT's in the game, people to say this kind of stuff.

    The route I see them going is starting an addon store for the game. Where people/other companies can make glam items or emotes and sell them as NFT's to other players. So lets say the creator makes 1000 of a really cool glam set. The item sell's out, and now other people are willing to spend a fortune to buy the glam set off other players. Meanwhile Square will sit back and charge lets say a 5% fee on each transaction of said outfit.

    This creation process would also allow them to approve or disapprove of what would be allowed. As I know they wouldn't let it turn into a free for all.

    But that will be the beginning of the end for the game. And most people I honestly believe would be ok with it to start with. The argument would be that you are supporting creators/modders by allowing them to sell their work in a legit manner.

    People just dont understand the madhouse it will devolve into. You already have plenty of people upset with just the mogstation. Wait till they see $1000+ NFT outfits or emotes lmao
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  5. #115
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    I would also like to add my reservations to this list about adding NFTs to FFXIV.

    I've been subbed to FFXIV continuously ever since 2.0 came out, I haven't cancelled it once. If NFTs do get added I would have to reconsider this and it would hurt because I love this game, but there are some lines I can't cross.
    I and everyone already in the game "play for fun", not as an investment opportunity If I wanted that, I would actually go and invest my money into something real and tangible that already exists. Anything I spend in the Mogstation I spend with the understanding that I won't get anything back, and I am 100% ok with that because I know exactly what I'm getting and it's a way to support the game and the company.

    FFXIV has surged in popularity without the need for trash such as NFTs etc. Square Enix, you are already earning at least £hundreds of millions from this game already, and you will continue to do so for a long time. Final Fantasy as a brand name is recognised and beloved the world over and as such will also earn £Millions every time a new one is released. You do not need to add NFTs into any of your games, especially not Final Fantasy XIV, in order to make money. I'm sure the dev team has already seen the myriad negative reactions to even just the hint that you might put NFTs into FFXIV so surely the wider business must recognise this too.

    Nobody has asked for NFTs, nobody wants NFTs, and to consider adding environmentally damaging blockchain elements into the game when the world is already on fire is really not a good look.

    I would like to add that I trust the FFXIV development team to continue to do what is in the best interest of the players, as they have proven for the last 10 years by their actions. This post is more aimed at corporate leadership (you never know they might see it) who would likely try to override the dev team to force them into the game. Certainly for me, and based on what I've seen across the internet since the announcement, adding NFTs into FFXIV will be nothing but damaging. Please, don't.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    NFT is a pic (for example a pic of yshtola) with an attachment or whatever that proves that you are the owner of that said thing, not the copyrights though if that isn't explicitly said you don't own that. Then you sell it to the next person for a bit more and it goes higher and higher and higher.

    But what creators actually do is selling it to a friend for like 50 dollars and that friend sells it to another friend for like 200 and then to another one for 1000 so the money never leaves the friend circle. Until someone from outside buys into it at which point you make thousands of dollars in net profit and the NFT becomes a dangerous gamble and whoever will hold it last is the one that loses basically all their money and is stuck with a worthless pic.

    So basically it is a scam, plain old and simple. Artificial price inflation like you see on the stockmarket sometimes. Until it crashes down and leaves a bunch of people ruined.

    And a NFT is no currency, it is like a stockmarket share. You can sell it maybe but you can't buy any shit with it at all. Just that there is no regulated market behind it or anything, if nobody buys your shitty yshtola pic you sit on a yshtola pic you paid 10k dollars for, grats.

    But why would somebody pay 1K for a silly digital picture?
    I can understand people paying quite a lot for a real picture drawn or painted on canvas by a famous person but to be paying the same for just something digital?


    I also didn't knew what NFT was, I searched it up and you can buy a bunch of (most even look bad) pictures for so much money. Not even sure what the point of it is
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    NFT is a pic (for example a pic of yshtola) with an attachment or whatever that proves that you are the owner of that said thing, not the copyrights though if that isn't explicitly said you don't own that. Then you sell it to the next person for a bit more and it goes higher and higher and higher.

    But what creators actually do is selling it to a friend for like 50 dollars and that friend sells it to another friend for like 200 and then to another one for 1000 so the money never leaves the friend circle. Until someone from outside buys into it at which point you make thousands of dollars in net profit and the NFT becomes a dangerous gamble and whoever will hold it last is the one that loses basically all their money and is stuck with a worthless pic.

    So basically it is a scam, plain old and simple. Artificial price inflation like you see on the stockmarket sometimes. Until it crashes down and leaves a bunch of people ruined.

    And a NFT is no currency, it is like a stockmarket share. You can sell it maybe but you can't buy any shit with it at all. Just that there is no regulated market behind it or anything, if nobody buys your shitty yshtola pic you sit on a yshtola pic you paid 10k dollars for, grats.
    Thing is this can be any digital product. Let's say a glam in game.
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  8. #118
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    To all that don't support this trash,hope we win. Thing is this is just the next whale hunt. The CEO know well that most people hate it. Same as most hated pre order, free to play but cash shopes games
    Now 5his is the norm and most openly exept it.
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  9. #119
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    SE said that in 6.1 they’re coming out with in-game character profile pages where you can pick an avatar and do various stuff to “customize” your profile. I would be very unsurprised if one way we see NFTs introduced into this game is in the form of pictures for your profiles. NFTs are “non-fungible” tokens, with “non-fungible” effectively meaning that they’re one of a kind, so you could, for example, be the only person in the game to have a specific picture of Y’shtola or something. These are different from securities that are traded on the national stock markets because those have to be fungible (i.e., one of your common shares has to be exchangeable for another common share without there being any differences between the two), and they are currently unregulated in the US (as the SEC has yet to deem them a security) and thus they’re super, super shady. They’re basically a digital version of beanie babies.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    SE said that in 6.1 they’re coming out with in-game character profile pages where you can pick an avatar and do various stuff to “customize” your profile. I would be very unsurprised if one way we see NFTs introduced into this game is in the form of pictures for your profiles. NFTs are “non-fungible” tokens, with “non-fungible” effectively meaning that they’re one of a kind, so you could, for example, be the only person in the game to have a specific picture of Y’shtola or something. These are different from securities that are traded on the national stock markets because those have to be fungible (i.e., one of your common shares has to be exchangeable for another common share without there being any differences between the two), and they are currently unregulated in the US (as the SEC has yet to deem them a security) and thus they’re super, super shady. They’re basically a digital version of beanie babies.
    What prevents me from copy paste it? It's a scam and the moment people try to see it as any thing but a scam is the moment it starting to get more legit.
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