The MSQ Endwalker Trial Bosses are WAY too hard for newer players to FFXIV

[CrayonsAndPaint]

Let me start off by saying the trials are easy for me, because I’m used to harder fights like those, but my friends who are new to the game, couldnt for the life of them understand what to do when doing the Zodiark trial. There’s honestly no need to make MSQ trial bosses that hard.

I just think it’s a bit extreme.

[Kranel_San]

Did you ever play a game where it doesn't increase in difficulty the more you advance in it?
It's the same here. The game slowly introduced you to new mechanics. You're not meant to zerg and braindead the bosses. You're meant to learn their mechanics. Most ( If not every ) boss in the game starts the encounter with an introduction to their mechanics, which should give you an insight into what they can do and how to avoid it.
As a mentor and a casual player. The problem isn't with the bosses' mechanics but rather it's with a certain portion of the players who don't read the chat, don't know the basic mechanics, and are not willing to cooperate and learn. Those are what makes a trial boss hard, not the boss itself.

[Espon]

There's nothing wrong with wiping a few times in order to learn mechanics. You don't lose EXP when you die, and you hardly lose any durability. The only thing wiping costs you is time.

I rather see new players struggle a little bit on a new encounter than complete everything in one try. That would be boring. I've had my share of wipes whenever I get a new trial or raid in roulette, but in the end we still manage to clear it in a few attempts. It's not like it's throwing extreme or savage level mechanics at you.

[Jeeqbit]

There was certainly some progression in it for my party, but over time veteran players will get it in a roulette and help them through it. Eventually they will add The Echo to it like they did with Titania (which a lot of parties abandoned because of failing the tank roles and the DPS checks).

[Kokonji]

assuming the new player is not boosting,
it shouldn't be that hard...

most of the attack is telegraphed, already shown in previous dungeon / boss trial/raids,
and have pretty long delay between telegraph and the damage, so it should be okay, just need a little reaction time

the boss on first trial even give you 'lecture' about the certain mech on the first time he cast it,
zooming out the camera so we have better chance to see and understand the gimmicks

even if the player fail the first mech, they could learn from it and adapt for the next
don't be discouraged just because wiping once or two, wiping is just another additional step to clearing.. :3

or if its still too hard, just use follow the majority rules, and hope the majority know the fight already.. its (mostly) works
(hint.. hint.. the one that know the fight usually jumping to grab your attention to the safe spot, just hope they aren't troll jump XD )

[Sarevok_Thordin]

Of course they are hard for new players.....it is content intended for level 83+ players.

If you are boosting, you reap what you sow.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

But your friend passed Shinryu, Tsukuyomi, Titania, Innocence, and SoS…

How is Zodiark ‘a bit extreme’?

[Kes13a]

this has to be a troll thread. like come on...

you are trying to say.. your friends went through NINETY levels.... did all the other trials... and the last one was "too hard"

please explain, in detail, how this is possible. unless, as some have pointed out, you told your friends "no need to do the rest of the game, end game is where its at!" and they bypassed literally 90% of the game and learning the mechanics. If that is the case, the problem is not the final trial is too hard, its that they have you as a friend who didnt let them learn in the first place.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Any new fight is hard until you learn the dance. Keep at it.

[Dewslam]

But your friend passed Shinryu, Tsukuyomi, Titania, Innocence, and SoS…

How is Zodiark ‘a bit extreme’?

It introduces new mechanics, like most story centric trials have done in every expansion. Lots of people have trouble with the spinning floors and looking up to consider where the stars are going to fall without having markers on the floor.

I don't think it's extreme, or especially difficult in contrast to the learning curve of other content the first time doing it, mind. But I can see how some people do.