Parsing needs to go.

[SweetestLily]

Parsing has only been out for a little while and already experiencing a lot of toxic wow-like community behavior about it. Mind you I haven't used it myself but I understand the concept of it, and I've already had a group that was intentionally doing a compromising strat on an EX trial to "pad their parse" and kicking anyone who had an issue with it. Didn't have anything about it in the PF info and got mad that people, who joined to actually complete the duty, had an issue with it. Guess this is what you get with the communities merging.

This post is laced with false/misinformation.

[ForteNightshade]

While that is true, you can't parse without players, but you can play without parses. It'll never get implemented for that reason. And the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy has produced enough toxicity. Imagine what it would be like if it were openly endorsed.

Not nearly as bad as a lot of people seem to think.

Any of the overly toxic players would get themselves banned within the first few weeks. Which would be doing everyone a favor if we're being honest. SE isn't going to stop enforcing their ToS policies after all.

Realistically, DPS meters aren't banned due to toxicity but rather to prevent player exclusion. The devs want people to carry bad and less experienced players through content even if said players are hardly contributing. They want you carry that freestyle Samurai who's died twice already or the White Mage who hasn't pressed Glare once. Toxicity, while absolutely a thing, is more the PR statement since coming right out and saying the actual reason wouldn't go over well.

[FireMage]

While that is true, you can't parse without players, but you can play without parses. It'll never get implemented for that reason. And the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy has produced enough toxicity. Imagine what it would be like if it were openly endorsed.

Game would be better

[ChoDerecho]

Parsing has only been out for a little while and already experiencing a lot of toxic wow-like community behavior about it. Mind you I haven't used it myself but I understand the concept of it, and I've already had a group that was intentionally doing a compromising strat on an EX trial to "pad their parse" and kicking anyone who had an issue with it. Didn't have anything about it in the PF info and got mad that people, who joined to actually complete the duty, had an issue with it. Guess this is what you get with the communities merging.

Third party parsing has existed for a decade+. If there are numbers, someone will count them, and someone else will use them enhance their ep to the detriment of more social creatures that have other things of value besides said numbers.

[Commander_Justitia]

As much as I dont care about the discussion - Fflogs should be a opt-in service and not a register-to-opt-out service. But they probably wouldn't make enough money with ads if only the parsing interested players are on it.

[FireMage]

As much as I dont care about the discussion - Fflogs should be a opt-in service and not a register-to-opt-out service. But they probably wouldn't make enough money with ads if only the parsing interested players are on it.

Wrong, fflogs shouldn't allow opting out, that's the actual issue