Why NOT allow PvP's Combo-actions to be used in PvE?

[Terin]

I don't know how many players opt to use a controller over kb&m, but I'm certainly one of them. As such, hotkeys are EXTREMELY valuable real estate, which sometimes means having to ask yourself "what actions can I afford to live without?", at least at a moment's notice.

The DRK, I've managed to play without any real issue, and even the Reaper I haven't felt like I had to make any particular sacrifice just yet. However, I've been leveling PLD recently, and I honestly feel kind of overwhelmed with how many actions I have to keep track of and regularly apply.

If I could even just consolidate their basic single-target and AoE combo's into single buttons, though -- which is already done in PvP -- ...man, it would be a WHOLE lot easier to keep everything easily bound to my three core bars (I know you can technically make L2+R2 and R2+L2 into two different bars, but it just feels unnatural to me).

I mostly just wonder, is there a compelling reason NOT to allow those rotating abilities? They're mostly "filler" abilities anyways, it just seems like it would make it a bit easier to add more complexity to jobs via long-cooldown abilities.

[Lily_Skye]

no pls I dont want to play with only 3 buttons like WoW, even League of Legends has more skills than WoW now

[Waaltar]

no pls I dont want to play with only 3 buttons like WoW, even League of Legends has more skill than WoW now

Or you could have your three buttons and they can also make a combo button and people can choose which to use.

I mean we should have had both options years ago, but people are dumb and turn these things into all or nothing fights for 'my way only.'

[Accolades]

no pls I dont want to play with only 3 buttons like WoW, even League of Legends has more skill than WoW now

So skill determines how many buttons you have to press interesting...

[Kolsykol]

Screw it, lets just turn the game into an auto combat mobile game.
You press one button and it plays itself.

We can't allow players to fail now can we?
Henceforth you can only win.

So skill determines how many buttons you have to press interesting...

Not on its own.
But chances are that if a Job takes 20 buttons to play in single-target it's going to be more difficult than one that takes 9.

I'd say frequency matters a lot too, one of the reasons why Reaper is so easy for example is that you spend so much time pressing 1 2 3 and can even keep doing it even when you've got Gauge spenders available so long as you don't overcap.
Reaper having less buttons to press and less frequently is absolutely one of the reasons why it's arguably the easiest DPS in the game.
It's not the only reason but it's a contributor.

Same with the story when you play as NPC's, if you increased the buttons by separating the combo actions like it is normally it'd inherently increase the difficulty.
Pressing three buttons is harder than pressing one, and it's also more involved and less monotonous.
Playing the NPC's is a pain and so is PvP long-term I can only stomach it for so long.

[Katie_Kitty]

Screw it, lets just turn the game into an auto combat mobile game.
You press one button and it plays itself.

We can't allow players to fail now can we?
Henceforth you can only win.



Not on its own.
But chances are that if a Job takes 20 buttons to play in single-target it's going to be more difficult than one that takes 9.

I'd say frequency matters a lot too, one of the reasons why Reaper is so easy for example is that you spend so much time pressing 1 2 3 and can even keep doing it even when you've got Gauge spenders available so long as you don't overcap.
Reaper having less buttons to press and less frequently is absolutely one of the reasons why it's arguably the easiest DPS in the game.
It's not the only reason but it's a contributor.

Same with the story when you play as NPC's, if you increased the buttons by separating the combo actions like it is normally it'd inherently increase the difficulty.
Pressing three buttons is harder than pressing one, and it's also more involved and less monotonous.
Playing the NPC's is a pain and so is PvP long-term I can only stomach it for so long.

Pretty ridiculous lol. 1/2/3 combos are not the reason why players fail. Every time someone comes along acting like it's soooo hard pressing 1 followed by 2 followed by 3 it just makes me laugh.

[Lilyth]

Pretty ridiculous lol. 1/2/3 combos are not the reason why players fail. Every time someone comes along acting like it's soooo hard pressing 1 followed by 2 followed by 3 it just makes me laugh.

It has nothing to do with being hard, it's about you being in control of your char's actions. I don't want pressing 111111111 to be the most efficient way to play and basically have the game play itself for me without even having to pay attention to what I'm doing. Healer forums is full of people tired of pressing one button all the time, I suggest you take a look and see what a horrible idea this is.

[Sighearth]

Pretty ridiculous lol. 1/2/3 combos are not the reason why players fail. Every time someone comes along acting like it's soooo hard pressing 1 followed by 2 followed by 3 it just makes me laugh.

yes thats my point exactly, so why remove them lol

[Kansene]

Screw it, lets just turn the game into an auto combat mobile game.
You press one button and it plays itself.

The literal only difference on the jobs whose combos are inflexible would be that instead of pressing 123 you'd be pressing 111.
The same amount of button presses. The same result.
You just use your index finger 3 times instead of your index, middle and ring finger 1 time.

2 more spaces freed up on your action bars, with virtually zero impact on gameplay seems like a win to me. They already did it with GNB's Gnashing Fang combo, and life is sweeter for it.

[Lily_Skye]

So skill determines how many buttons you have to press interesting...

skills* typo