Why NOT allow PvP's Combo-actions to be used in PvE?

[Terin]

I don't know how many players opt to use a controller over kb&m, but I'm certainly one of them. As such, hotkeys are EXTREMELY valuable real estate, which sometimes means having to ask yourself "what actions can I afford to live without?", at least at a moment's notice.

The DRK, I've managed to play without any real issue, and even the Reaper I haven't felt like I had to make any particular sacrifice just yet. However, I've been leveling PLD recently, and I honestly feel kind of overwhelmed with how many actions I have to keep track of and regularly apply.

If I could even just consolidate their basic single-target and AoE combo's into single buttons, though -- which is already done in PvP -- ...man, it would be a WHOLE lot easier to keep everything easily bound to my three core bars (I know you can technically make L2+R2 and R2+L2 into two different bars, but it just feels unnatural to me).

I mostly just wonder, is there a compelling reason NOT to allow those rotating abilities? They're mostly "filler" abilities anyways, it just seems like it would make it a bit easier to add more complexity to jobs via long-cooldown abilities.

[Lily_Skye]

no pls I dont want to play with only 3 buttons like WoW, even League of Legends has more skills than WoW now

[Katie_Kitty]

They should, but some people think "Messing up 1-2-3" is something people actually do more than once a month or something, and so they have attached themselves to this idea that having 1/2/3 combos makes a job "harder".

[Burningskull]

I wouldn't mind a toggle for the people that want it. Hell even I might use it lol.

[Waaltar]

no pls I dont want to play with only 3 buttons like WoW, even League of Legends has more skill than WoW now

Or you could have your three buttons and they can also make a combo button and people can choose which to use.

I mean we should have had both options years ago, but people are dumb and turn these things into all or nothing fights for 'my way only.'

[Menriq]

You are going to have to have different buttons for different combos. Just off the top of my head, SAM and MNK both have their ST combo start with same action, but have two different rotations.

[Shibi]

To me, they could accomplish the same by allowing a new macro sequential feature; allowing groups of GCD spells to be fired off sequentially with each button press.

To stop abuse, only GCD spells which potentially have combos should be able to be fired sequentially, otherwise they work as now.

[Mikey_R]

(I know you can technically make L2+R2 and R2+L2 into two different bars, but it just feels unnatural to me).

For me, my crossbars for single target and mainly focused around R2, L2 and R2>L2 I save L2>R2 for AoE and rarely used actions. Whether you do that or not is your choice, however I would suggest getting used to having a whole extra crossbar for more actions. You also have swapping with the R1 tap (whilst not holding anything) or swapping by holding down R1 and pressing the corresponding button. I don't use these as I dont find them responsive enough for my play, but it is an option. There is also the W Crossbars, the only things I have there are LB and Sprint, but again, some people do make good use of them.

As for Paladin actions to drop, the only ones I can suggest are Shield Bash and Cover. Shield Bash is obvious, you have Low Blow which is more than enough to handle the vast majority of scenarios. Cover is very very niche in it's uses, and even then, you can only really plan out it's uses. Most of the time, you are probably better off throwing an Intervention doe the damage mitigation and regen.

[Istaru]

I vote that we get the mythical JP button in XI. With that one button we get the following:

Defeat any monster instantly.
Make any craft result in a HQ.
Make any monster drop every single potential item they can, and then some more items.

Also, make all dungeon bosses or ultimate targets sit there like a statue until we JP button it and get all the loot.

I think this is a great idea and would drive participation rates through the roof!! Our 1% clearance for ultimate and 8% for savage? Not anymore, more like 101% and 108%!!!

/s For anyone who needs it

My personal issue with it is that they have spent the last 6 years making the game simpler already and people keep asking for even more simplification on top of that. Where does it stop? Does it stop at the silly idea I just posted?

[Accolades]

When I first played this game I messed around with macros to facility easier play cause I absolutely hate and still hate the combo system but macros are useless in this game as they strip away any usefulness of a macro in this game intentionally with the que thing. When I went in to PVP and saw that they literally have PVP combos and was like why cant we do this in PVE? We got single target combos, aoe combos, and combos within combos. Can I please just get the burger with no drink and fries?