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Thread: Healers please

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    Healers please

    As a healer myself. I'm often go into extreme fights thinking other healers will heal and or aoe heal for stacked markers, but what I'm left with is they keep dpsing.

    I know more damage the better but please if I wanted to solo heal I'll put a pf up and solo heal. I like to dps to. Not sure if this is a trend now but its almost every time I do a extreme now a healer doesn't want to heal.

    Now I know whm brings the big heals with cure 3 and I could heal through it but I should expect some help.

    I went in with my sage once and this whm never put up a medica 2 or cure 3 just kept dpsing away and I'm stuck doing all the healing.

    So please I beg of you. do some aoe healing succor, medica 2 cure 3 if close, medica, prognosis ect.

    Sorry about this rant just had to get it off my chest
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    while i do agree that this is an issue that crops up from time to time, bear in mind context

    the extreme fights have been cleared without a healer, the lack of damage in them is so blatant that you really dont need two healers unless one goes down

    Speaking as a sage, I can literally dump panhaima for the first styx and ignore the stack and the second can be a combo of kerachole/pneuma and ixochole if somebody had a vuln stack beforehand. The third should it happen can be solved with panhaima and kerachole.

    Thats assuming we dont have a reaper or summoner or a tank that use their own aoe healing. The only thing that really hurts in that fight is styx which as i just explained the ease of negating and the meteor patterns which are a one hit kill

    also you're asking them to gcd heal when in fact everyone is more than likely using ogcd heals as they are flat out better in most scenarios
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    There is some tight healing parts. Where you say you use panhaima which is awesome on the first styx its the before which I can understand using cure 3 2 times and assize no problem. As long as we the healers are rotating through our abilities back and forth I have no problem. The problem is no healing output at all is coming through the other healer. phobos is solved by my bell first styx can be solved by stating what I said earlier. and then that stack I can medica 2 and medica for everyone to be fine but that problem is I'm not getting support through the other healer. I would love to dps 24/7 if I could but the issue is I cant because of the lack of healing through the other person. Some people go down from Astral or moving platforms and I'm left with the grunt work. While the other healer doesn't take notice. Its just annoying you know.
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    Some people hear "this fight doesn't need healing" from the rest of the community and then just decide to shut off healthbars, it seems.
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    I notice this even in leveling roulettes. Healers dont want to heal they just want to be green DPS and get a fast queue.
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    Did anyone die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Did anyone die?
    People die to some mechs because you know they ignore some mechs. other than that though no. Still doesn't mean I'm going to think like oh stack mech incoming my other healer dpsing. oh I guess i'll try to just heal everything all the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Some people hear "this fight doesn't need healing" from the rest of the community and then just decide to shut off healthbars, it seems.
    Just dumb. Would love some support from other healers. I had a sch bluntly say no to me when I asked if they could maybe do some succor since my shit is enough to heal through it. Like I could be that way and not heal and see how far the team gets D:
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    not all healers run that way... many of us main healers.. because we like healing.

    I get it, its easier to lump the combat healers "green dps" in with actual healers, but at least generalize for everyone. Tanks cant use mitigation, and dps all stand in aoes and floor tank.

    people are people, some are good, some are bad. some just go healer for a fast queue, just like they used to with a sch before that major changes a couple expansions back. there will always be players that just dont play well. end of the day, people play how they want. your rant on a forum that less than 5% of the player base will ever read.. is sadly wasted since if you read ANYTHING on these forums... a majority of the "leet" players expect a healer to be green dps, as healing is not needed apparently. as a healer, any time you toss a heal, according to them, you are lowering your contribution to the dps you should be doing. bad healers heal.. good healers dps and people die.. sometimes even the boss. thats the prevailing forum attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LazyMemories View Post
    People die to some mechs because you know they ignore some mechs. other than that though no. Still doesn't mean I'm going to think like oh stack mech incoming my other healer dpsing. oh I guess i'll try to just heal everything all the time
    If one healer is enough to heal the stack mechanic, what is the other healer meant to do?

    Overheal together with you? Inefficient.

    Heal more, while you heal less and dps more? Doesn't matter who does what unless you care about parse numbers.

    Heal more, while you heal less and don't dps? That's a dps loss.

    There's no harm in doing damage and using some instant healing abilities in between casts to support the other healer.
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