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    THis reminds me of one thing SE has said before. Everyone Kindlyforgot about it to.

    *We won't remake FF7 until all of our Other FF games has sold as much as FF7*

    They also canned a few of their mobile titles that had active communities so they could herd all of their fans into their new Gacha and battle Royale games. They have actively treated their devs like crap for years until VERY recently. Did we also forget this is the same company that Almost went BANK RUPT from being to prideful and thinking no one could top them. You all are literally playing the game that one man saved because of SE being the japanese version of EA. In the No Clip Documentary, Yoshi P himself said it was Hubris that almost ruined Square.

    Idk how much more Evidence that SE has always been a really shiesty company a lot of people need, but if NFT is what woke you up. Please Remember Yoshi P and his Team are A singular group within the giant that is Square Enix. And Square Enix has always been about making as much money as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    *We won't remake FF7 until all of our Other FF games has sold as much as FF7*
    Source? The only place the above appears during a search is the page here on the forums where you wrote it.

    Your take on business practices reads a tad bitter. Care to share more than vague statements about why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Crypto can't implode fast enough to satisfy me.
    Best comment ever.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Source? The only place the above appears during a search is the page here on the forums where you wrote it.

    Your take on business practices reads a tad bitter. Care to share more than vague statements about why?
    It was a fairly long time ago, but back when they showed the FF7 Tech demo for Ps3, SE began flip flopping on if they were, or were not making the FF7 Remake, I specifically remember them saying they weren't remaking it until all their other FF titles were meeting the same amount of sales as FF7. This was also around the time they were going bankrupt.

    And it's not bitterness, it's me seeing a billion dollar company for what it's worth. Yoshi P and his devs are most likely not going to be affected by anything NFT related. SE isn't dumb, they are infact a fairly smart company business wise, Currently at least, That being said it's fairly anti-consumer, knowing square they're gonna make a few one off games, or pump crypto and NFT into their mobile titles. Said titles will find an audience, and they'l milk them for all they can before said titles will suddenly have its service cut after a year or 2 and then SE will wash their hands of it and move on. It's always how they've been, Prime examples being thire list of IPs.

    Square and Enix Seperately released a fair amount of major hit Titles, not limited to The Crono series, the Valkyrie Series, the Parasite eve series we also have the Star Ocean series. bad business choice, milked IPs, and bad direction marks all of these titles, and out of all of them The Crono Series has been religated to a mobile game. My point here is simple, and you can take it as bitterness if thats what you choose, but SE has a history of tossing aside what doesn't make them more money then FF, dipping their hands in anything that can be milked to pump more money into FF, no matter how sleazy it is. It's really shitty, and honestly unfair, when looking at the large amount of fans for those IPs mention, and just really horrible when looking at this company from a consumer PoV.

    FFXIV is going so well because of Yoshi P not SE, and I find it hypocritical that they would Push NFT, which is helping in Depriving them of servers for the game, especially right before a major content release, is just down right disrespectful. Not to mention, from a human PoV, bad for the enviornment, and with Japan being plagued by a regular amount of Natural disasters, you think they would care a bit more.
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    THis reminds me of one thing SE has said before. Everyone Kindlyforgot about it to.

    *We won't remake FF7 until all of our Other FF games has sold as much as FF7*

    They also canned a few of their mobile titles that had active communities so they could herd all of their fans into their new Gacha and battle Royale games. They have actively treated their devs like crap for years until VERY recently. Did we also forget this is the same company that Almost went BANK RUPT from being to prideful and thinking no one could top them. You all are literally playing the game that one man saved because of SE being the japanese version of EA. In the No Clip Documentary, Yoshi P himself said it was Hubris that almost ruined Square.

    Idk how much more Evidence that SE has always been a really shiesty company a lot of people need, but if NFT is what woke you up. Please Remember Yoshi P and his Team are A singular group within the giant that is Square Enix. And Square Enix has always been about making as much money as possible.
    But here's the thing, right.... FFXIV is good now because the company changed. And this guy, this guy that wrote this letter, was a part of that change. He was the CFO at the time and he supported Yoshida. So there's hope.
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    The way I understand it but I am still unsure on this NFT thing is they want the money up front BEFORE making any more content and NFT is a way to facilitate this. I could be wrong though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalesnm View Post
    But here's the thing, right.... FFXIV is good now because the company changed. And this guy, this guy that wrote this letter, was a part of that change. He was the CFO at the time and he supported Yoshida. So there's hope.
    What you're not seeing is that XIV won;t be touched, at least not in the way people are thinking, so if thats all you care about then you don't have to worry. As for him being the CFO at the time he did what he needed to do to keep his job. The best thing to do is not look at this with rose tinted glasses, Yoshi P is a good person who cares, the now CEO has to make a bottom line.

    NFT and Crypto will only be in one off games that can milk whales with money they already throw away, the issue of SE baacking NFT and how this does involve XIV, just not in the way everyone is thinking, NFT is affecting the current semi-conductor shortage. XIV is suffering from it, you see how it's a bit of a smack to the face of XIV players. It's Hypocritical and Disrespectful to the dev team who are about to release new content, and the players who will have to suffer the log in queues.

    In closing, a Billion Dollar company, doesn;t care about you, or how much you love the game. Yoshi P is not the company, just a worker within, same goes for the dev team. But SE the company housing them is, well they're kinda scummy as far as JP companies go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accolades View Post
    The way I understand it but I am still unsure on this NFT thing is they want the money up front BEFORE making any more content and NFT is a way to facilitate this. I could be wrong though.
    They want to make games that requires a down payment, pay to play. People who pay in can then lease what they paid for to people who cant pay, and make money off of them.

    Essentially, it's a very large pyramid sceme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    What you're not seeing is that XIV won;t be touched, at least not in the way people are thinking, so if thats all you care about then you don't have to worry. As for him being the CFO at the time he did what he needed to do to keep his job. The best thing to do is not look at this with rose tinted glasses, Yoshi P is a good person who cares, the now CEO has to make a bottom line.

    NFT and Crypto will only be in one off games that can milk whales with money they already throw away, the issue of SE baacking NFT and how this does involve XIV, just not in the way everyone is thinking, NFT is affecting the current semi-conductor shortage. XIV is suffering from it, you see how it's a bit of a smack to the face of XIV players. It's Hypocritical and Disrespectful to the dev team who are about to release new content, and the players who will have to suffer the log in queues.

    In closing, a Billion Dollar company, doesn;t care about you, or how much you love the game. Yoshi P is not the company, just a worker within, same goes for the dev team. But SE the company housing them is, well they're kinda scummy as far as JP companies go.
    I'm more concern about the lack of touch with the consumer than about NFTs, metaverse and the like. Those things are just consequences.

    But I guess you're right. I mean, even at Blizzard that sort of arrangement worked (Jeff Kaplan was shielding his team from the shitstorm coming from the rest of the company).
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    Part of me wonders if SE CEO is being pressured by shareholders due to the events of last month.

    I don't know how SE's sales actually have been but I get a bad feeling like they can't have been good, and that over the critical Christmas month.

    Misfortune the first: There are probably basically no EW post sales, because of the freeze out on new user accounts (plus all those folks who friends had just about convinced to join XIV, then hesitated just a little too long because of the queue hell, then found they could no longer register).

    Misfortune the second: Unlike most game pre orders, EW pre orders probably did precious little for the critical Christmas sales period, because most people paid for them months ago in order to get the pre-order earring etc., meaning, I assume, that those sales counted for the summer, not for December.

    Misfortune the third: I'd guess anything that Fantasia sales, the traditional XIV whale vehicle, probably took a nose dive since EW launch despite the introduction of the much wanted Bunny Boys, because the fact that you must log out to use one alone put (and still probably puts on some of the most congested servers like Gilgamesh and Cactuar) a severe damper on doing so. Some RPers are known to use multiple Fanta a day, but that's definitely not happening when you have to get back into a 3000+ queue every time, and that's assuming the game even LETS you use the appearance change (as noted in another thread, if the server decides when you queue up that you don't get to see your character, you don't get to do the appearance edit either!).

    Misfortune the fourth: It's Steam Sale season, so most of the OTHER games in SE's catalog are only being sold at half price or so. Not like they can really pull out of the Steam sale either, if they want people to even buy anything at all ...

    Misfortune the fifth: This basically leaves FF7R on Epic as almost their main full price offering right now, and many people are already mad about the $70 price tag, being forced to use Epic, or both ...

    Assuming all these are as stated -

    Shareholders to CEO: WHERE. IS. MY. MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! What are you going to do to get more MONEY!!!!!!!
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