Square Enix and Crypto

[rance-sama]

OK...

Now THIS is Podracing.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

And important thing to remember is that the FFXIV devs are NOT the same as the SE CEO and the Corporate side of the industry. This scummy thing is coming from the corporate publisher SE, not the XIV dev team.

I can't in any reality see YoshiP and the team being okay with adding NFT's to XIV. If it happens and gets forced on them by corporate side, the community would mass riot and exodus. At least, I would hope these devs would fight against that.

[rance-sama]

And important thing to remember is that the FFXIV devs are NOT the same as the SE CEO and the Corporate side of the industry. This scummy thing is coming from the corporate publisher SE, not the XIV dev team.

I can't in any reality see YoshiP and the team being okay with adding NFT's to XIV. If it happens and gets forced on them by corporate side, the community would mass riot and exodus. At least, I would hope these devs would fight against that.

The problem is that sometimes corporate meddling from higher places oozes all the way down to other departments. Imagine if the SE CEO decided to tell YoshiP to add NFTs to FFXIV in one way or another because "It's the future of gaming".
This garbage is going to get worse before it gets better, and by getting better I mean it will die in a most spectacular way.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

The problem is that sometimes corporate meddling from higher places oozes all the way down to other departments. Imagine if the SE CEO decided to tell YoshiP to add NFTs to FFXIV in one way or another because "It's the future of gaming".
This garbage is going to get worse before it gets better, and by getting better I mean it will die in a most spectacular way.

Oh I 100% agree, hence when I said I really hope that doesn't happen.

[DinahDemiurge]

I know this. Rampant fraud, theft, Ponzi schemes, and the like, are other problems endemic to crypto in general. The evidence is overwhelming. However, there's no reason to believe that, just because SE would be involved, things would be any different for a crypto scheme operated by SE. Users would still have their wallets stolen, exposed to fraudulent side projects masquerading as relating to SE, and the like. This problem is intrinsic to crypto, and thus completely unavoidable. How is the consumer well served by the addition of crypto to gaming, then?

actually i totally agree with you on all that.

[Thaciscokidd]

When are people going to realize that Corps aren't for you. They are to make money and if a iffy, predatory way to make a good amount of money come about that they all will jump on it.

Ubisoft opened the door, now everyone will walk through it.

We have a perfect example here already. Do you actually think Yoshi P wanted to add the Cruise Chaser to the FFXIV Cash Shop?

[strawberrycake]

Given SEs history with how they treat the industry, it's not surprising, SE likes to be ahead of the curve, and has always been willing to do it in a sleazy way. It was like that when JRPGs got big, and it' still like that now.

[Kakure]

Crypto is cool, it is just a new gold rush, why hate on it so much? Leave my profits alone! I was able to pay back my student loans in 3 years with crypto.

If you want to invest your money in speculative assets to resell to other speculators (or someone who needs to pay off a ransomware gang or international heroin smugglers), have at it.

NFTs are a laughably ridiculous scam that we do not want in our games. They add no value to games. Period. Game companies clearly see NFTs as the next big way to separate players from their money. SE is not the only company doing this (or talking about doing it), and it is imperative that all gamers everywhere make clear that we will not tolerate it.

It is not exactly clear what FFXIV NFTs would look like, and much of Matsuda's letter was a borderline-meaningless word salad of techbro idiotspeak ("Leveraging cloud technologies is extremely effective... as a catalyst for creating new forms of excitement that expand upon the content development capabilities for which we are known."). Maybe the ownership history of every plot of land could be recorded on the blockchain for no one to ever go look at. Maybe they would layer a "token economy" over the regular gil economy like WoW did. But, you know, with blockchain. For some reason. The point is that there's no good answer to the question. Whatever SE's "blockchain gaming" might look like, it is axiomatically worse than what we have already.

Keep working on the language recognition and AI modeling stuff. That's great. Try out cloud-based gaming. Sure. Whatever. But keep this NFT/blockchain trash away from our games.

[Kyu-Momo]

And important thing to remember is that the FFXIV devs are NOT the same as the SE CEO and the Corporate side of the industry. This scummy thing is coming from the corporate publisher SE, not the XIV dev team.

I can't in any reality see YoshiP and the team being okay with adding NFT's to XIV. If it happens and gets forced on them by corporate side, the community would mass riot and exodus. At least, I would hope these devs would fight against that.

This. I've always known the Square CEO and big wigs are scummy. I support FF14 because of yoshi-p and his team are at the helm. The moment yoshi-P and his team are gone is the moment FF14 will start going downhill and becoming the greedy cesspool that other MMOs have become.

[KizuyaKatogami]

This. I've always known the Square CEO and big wigs are scummy. I support FF14 because of yoshi-p and his team are at the helm. The moment yoshi-P and his team are gone is the moment FF14 will start going downhill and becoming the greedy cesspool that other MMOs have become.

Well he’s already been putting his time towards 16 and i think it’s beginning to show with the gear and content…