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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    What you're not seeing is that XIV won;t be touched, at least not in the way people are thinking, so if thats all you care about then you don't have to worry. As for him being the CFO at the time he did what he needed to do to keep his job. The best thing to do is not look at this with rose tinted glasses, Yoshi P is a good person who cares, the now CEO has to make a bottom line.

    NFT and Crypto will only be in one off games that can milk whales with money they already throw away, the issue of SE baacking NFT and how this does involve XIV, just not in the way everyone is thinking, NFT is affecting the current semi-conductor shortage. XIV is suffering from it, you see how it's a bit of a smack to the face of XIV players. It's Hypocritical and Disrespectful to the dev team who are about to release new content, and the players who will have to suffer the log in queues.

    In closing, a Billion Dollar company, doesn;t care about you, or how much you love the game. Yoshi P is not the company, just a worker within, same goes for the dev team. But SE the company housing them is, well they're kinda scummy as far as JP companies go.
    I'm more concern about the lack of touch with the consumer than about NFTs, metaverse and the like. Those things are just consequences.

    But I guess you're right. I mean, even at Blizzard that sort of arrangement worked (Jeff Kaplan was shielding his team from the shitstorm coming from the rest of the company).
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    Part of me wonders if SE CEO is being pressured by shareholders due to the events of last month.

    I don't know how SE's sales actually have been but I get a bad feeling like they can't have been good, and that over the critical Christmas month.

    Misfortune the first: There are probably basically no EW post sales, because of the freeze out on new user accounts (plus all those folks who friends had just about convinced to join XIV, then hesitated just a little too long because of the queue hell, then found they could no longer register).

    Misfortune the second: Unlike most game pre orders, EW pre orders probably did precious little for the critical Christmas sales period, because most people paid for them months ago in order to get the pre-order earring etc., meaning, I assume, that those sales counted for the summer, not for December.

    Misfortune the third: I'd guess anything that Fantasia sales, the traditional XIV whale vehicle, probably took a nose dive since EW launch despite the introduction of the much wanted Bunny Boys, because the fact that you must log out to use one alone put (and still probably puts on some of the most congested servers like Gilgamesh and Cactuar) a severe damper on doing so. Some RPers are known to use multiple Fanta a day, but that's definitely not happening when you have to get back into a 3000+ queue every time, and that's assuming the game even LETS you use the appearance change (as noted in another thread, if the server decides when you queue up that you don't get to see your character, you don't get to do the appearance edit either!).

    Misfortune the fourth: It's Steam Sale season, so most of the OTHER games in SE's catalog are only being sold at half price or so. Not like they can really pull out of the Steam sale either, if they want people to even buy anything at all ...

    Misfortune the fifth: This basically leaves FF7R on Epic as almost their main full price offering right now, and many people are already mad about the $70 price tag, being forced to use Epic, or both ...

    Assuming all these are as stated -

    Shareholders to CEO: WHERE. IS. MY. MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! What are you going to do to get more MONEY!!!!!!!
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    I don't really see what they could do to add in NFTs or Cryptocurrency into FFXIV...

    The closest they currently have is Crysta, are they gonna let people earn it in-game and trade it between people? Because that would nuke the economy and with it some of the game's popularity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I don't really see what they could do to add in NFTs or Cryptocurrency into FFXIV...

    The closest they currently have is Crysta, are they gonna let people earn it in-game and trade it between people? Because that would nuke the economy and with it some of the game's popularity.
    I posted this in the other thread on this topic. But I'll just repost it here too

    "The route I see them going is starting an addon store for the game. Where people/other companies can make glam items or emotes and sell them as NFT's to other players. So lets say the creator makes 1000 of a really cool glam set. The item sell's out, and now other people are willing to spend a fortune to buy the glam set off other players. Meanwhile Square will sit back and charge lets say a 5% fee on each transaction of said outfit.

    This creation process would also allow them to approve or disapprove of what would be allowed. As I know they wouldn't let it turn into a free for all.

    But that will be the beginning of the end for the game. And most people I honestly believe would be ok with it to start with. The argument would be that you are supporting creators/modders by allowing them to sell their work in a legit manner.

    People just dont understand the madhouse it will devolve into. You already have plenty of people upset with just the mogstation. Wait till they see $1000+ NFT outfits or emotes lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elodie_Einsbern View Post
    I posted this in the other thread on this topic. But I'll just repost it here too

    "The route I see them going is starting an addon store for the game. Where people/other companies can make glam items or emotes and sell them as NFT's to other players. So lets say the creator makes 1000 of a really cool glam set. The item sell's out, and now other people are willing to spend a fortune to buy the glam set off other players. Meanwhile Square will sit back and charge lets say a 5% fee on each transaction of said outfit.

    This creation process would also allow them to approve or disapprove of what would be allowed. As I know they wouldn't let it turn into a free for all.

    But that will be the beginning of the end for the game. And most people I honestly believe would be ok with it to start with. The argument would be that you are supporting creators/modders by allowing them to sell their work in a legit manner.

    People just dont understand the madhouse it will devolve into. You already have plenty of people upset with just the mogstation. Wait till they see $1000+ NFT outfits or emotes lmao
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    For anyone who thinks this hasn't been happening for years - even before the term "NFT" was coined - I present this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roblox

    and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY
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    Agree

    You captured my feelings on the matter perfectly. I don't want to "play to earn". That's what I go to work for. I just want to be a scrub who "plays for fun" because that's what a video game is supposed to be. If they came into the game I would also have to seriously reconsider my sub (a sub that hasn't dropped a single time since 2.0 release I would like to add).

    CBU3 genuinely care about their players and I trust that the FFXIV dev team is probably against the idea. If NFTs do happen it will be because corporate forced them through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EowynSunshroud View Post
    You captured my feelings on the matter perfectly. I don't want to "play to earn". That's what I go to work for. I just want to be a scrub who "plays for fun" because that's what a video game is supposed to be. If they came into the game I would also have to seriously reconsider my sub (a sub that hasn't dropped a single time since 2.0 release I would like to add).

    CBU3 genuinely care about their players and I trust that the FFXIV dev team is probably against the idea. If NFTs do happen it will be because corporate forced them through.
    You vill take ze nanomachinz
    You vill live in ze pod
    You vill put the Vr goggles on
    You vill mine ze blockchain grinding ze fideo gamez
    You vill give data from your brain playing ze fideo game for crypto
    You vill change your attitude and be happy about it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by EowynSunshroud View Post
    You captured my feelings on the matter perfectly. I don't want to "play to earn". That's what I go to work for. I just want to be a scrub who "plays for fun" because that's what a video game is supposed to be. If they came into the game I would also have to seriously reconsider my sub (a sub that hasn't dropped a single time since 2.0 release I would like to add).

    CBU3 genuinely care about their players and I trust that the FFXIV dev team is probably against the idea. If NFTs do happen it will be because corporate forced them through.
    Yeah, here's the thing: even if you "play to earn", you ALSO should have fun. Otherwise, you'll never be able to relate to your customer and you should go work somewhere else. So, even if there are people that "play to earn" (or "play to contribute", as the guy said in the letter), this segregation makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    For anyone who thinks this hasn't been happening for years - even before the term "NFT" was coined - I present this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roblox

    and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY
    Oh for sure, which makes it all the more hilarious because attaching an NFT to the item is completely pointless. But they would do it to add more "value" and "legitimatize" it as a real thing. And people will buy into it. The NFT crowd for the most part are either cult members or scam artist's. I'm not saying NFT's cant have a use. But in something like FFXIV, it has zero legitimate use outside trying to funnel more money out of players.

    But yeah its why I stay as far away from something like Roblox. And that's what this fool of a president wants to turn his games into. Because they do make a ton of money atm
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    Square enix getting into NFT's pisses me off more then ff13-3. This is without a doubt the most disappointing thing they have done
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