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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalesnm View Post
    One thing is for sure: NFTs, cryptocurrencies and the like are far from a consensus. Even if you somehow like these things, you have to admit that not everyone likes them, far from it. This is a fact.

    So, introducing such things to a beloved game or franchise... it's bound to fail. You'd be going against a very big chunk of your playerbase, from the most dedicated fans to the newest sprout. You could say that the profits in NFTs would compensate the loss in subs and other sources of revenue, but that's extremely unlikely (I'd say it's pretty much impossible).

    That is to say... If you want to experiment with NFTs and the like, fine. You'll probably fail, but fine. Just remember to do it somewhere else, far from FFXIV or your other beloved games.
    Tbh outside of some them doing something like tying playable content behind them I do not see the masses rallying behind the cause to vote with their wallets enough to off set what a small minority would put into the game. I mean wouldn’t the same sense of whales for micro transactions also apply for NFT’s?
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    I agree, I won't watch another corporation drown a beloved video game for money. It remains to be seen the extent of these plans, and if they are introduced in limited ways and as a secondary focus, I think that's fine. The problem comes when it starts to dilute the player experience and trades the quality of the game itself for more store items and microtransactions. FFXIV's continued roaring success is the one thing that kept WoW's chaotic shitstorm from crushing me, I won't be around to watch FFXIV become another laughing stock.
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    I am going to keep this short and sweet.

    I love this game. No game has given me a story like this.

    Obviously the parent company does not necessarily represent the views of the developers themselves. I'd like to think Yoshi-P wouldn't support this.

    But if FF XIV starts actively using Crypto/NFT, I will not continue to play it.

    I've already beaten Endwalker, I don't NEED to stick around for the ending anymore.
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    THis reminds me of one thing SE has said before. Everyone Kindlyforgot about it to.

    *We won't remake FF7 until all of our Other FF games has sold as much as FF7*

    They also canned a few of their mobile titles that had active communities so they could herd all of their fans into their new Gacha and battle Royale games. They have actively treated their devs like crap for years until VERY recently. Did we also forget this is the same company that Almost went BANK RUPT from being to prideful and thinking no one could top them. You all are literally playing the game that one man saved because of SE being the japanese version of EA. In the No Clip Documentary, Yoshi P himself said it was Hubris that almost ruined Square.

    Idk how much more Evidence that SE has always been a really shiesty company a lot of people need, but if NFT is what woke you up. Please Remember Yoshi P and his Team are A singular group within the giant that is Square Enix. And Square Enix has always been about making as much money as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    *We won't remake FF7 until all of our Other FF games has sold as much as FF7*
    Source? The only place the above appears during a search is the page here on the forums where you wrote it.

    Your take on business practices reads a tad bitter. Care to share more than vague statements about why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Source? The only place the above appears during a search is the page here on the forums where you wrote it.

    Your take on business practices reads a tad bitter. Care to share more than vague statements about why?
    It was a fairly long time ago, but back when they showed the FF7 Tech demo for Ps3, SE began flip flopping on if they were, or were not making the FF7 Remake, I specifically remember them saying they weren't remaking it until all their other FF titles were meeting the same amount of sales as FF7. This was also around the time they were going bankrupt.

    And it's not bitterness, it's me seeing a billion dollar company for what it's worth. Yoshi P and his devs are most likely not going to be affected by anything NFT related. SE isn't dumb, they are infact a fairly smart company business wise, Currently at least, That being said it's fairly anti-consumer, knowing square they're gonna make a few one off games, or pump crypto and NFT into their mobile titles. Said titles will find an audience, and they'l milk them for all they can before said titles will suddenly have its service cut after a year or 2 and then SE will wash their hands of it and move on. It's always how they've been, Prime examples being thire list of IPs.

    Square and Enix Seperately released a fair amount of major hit Titles, not limited to The Crono series, the Valkyrie Series, the Parasite eve series we also have the Star Ocean series. bad business choice, milked IPs, and bad direction marks all of these titles, and out of all of them The Crono Series has been religated to a mobile game. My point here is simple, and you can take it as bitterness if thats what you choose, but SE has a history of tossing aside what doesn't make them more money then FF, dipping their hands in anything that can be milked to pump more money into FF, no matter how sleazy it is. It's really shitty, and honestly unfair, when looking at the large amount of fans for those IPs mention, and just really horrible when looking at this company from a consumer PoV.

    FFXIV is going so well because of Yoshi P not SE, and I find it hypocritical that they would Push NFT, which is helping in Depriving them of servers for the game, especially right before a major content release, is just down right disrespectful. Not to mention, from a human PoV, bad for the enviornment, and with Japan being plagued by a regular amount of Natural disasters, you think they would care a bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    THis reminds me of one thing SE has said before. Everyone Kindlyforgot about it to.

    *We won't remake FF7 until all of our Other FF games has sold as much as FF7*

    They also canned a few of their mobile titles that had active communities so they could herd all of their fans into their new Gacha and battle Royale games. They have actively treated their devs like crap for years until VERY recently. Did we also forget this is the same company that Almost went BANK RUPT from being to prideful and thinking no one could top them. You all are literally playing the game that one man saved because of SE being the japanese version of EA. In the No Clip Documentary, Yoshi P himself said it was Hubris that almost ruined Square.

    Idk how much more Evidence that SE has always been a really shiesty company a lot of people need, but if NFT is what woke you up. Please Remember Yoshi P and his Team are A singular group within the giant that is Square Enix. And Square Enix has always been about making as much money as possible.
    But here's the thing, right.... FFXIV is good now because the company changed. And this guy, this guy that wrote this letter, was a part of that change. He was the CFO at the time and he supported Yoshida. So there's hope.
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    The way I understand it but I am still unsure on this NFT thing is they want the money up front BEFORE making any more content and NFT is a way to facilitate this. I could be wrong though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accolades View Post
    The way I understand it but I am still unsure on this NFT thing is they want the money up front BEFORE making any more content and NFT is a way to facilitate this. I could be wrong though.
    They want to make games that requires a down payment, pay to play. People who pay in can then lease what they paid for to people who cant pay, and make money off of them.

    Essentially, it's a very large pyramid sceme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalesnm View Post
    But here's the thing, right.... FFXIV is good now because the company changed. And this guy, this guy that wrote this letter, was a part of that change. He was the CFO at the time and he supported Yoshida. So there's hope.
    What you're not seeing is that XIV won;t be touched, at least not in the way people are thinking, so if thats all you care about then you don't have to worry. As for him being the CFO at the time he did what he needed to do to keep his job. The best thing to do is not look at this with rose tinted glasses, Yoshi P is a good person who cares, the now CEO has to make a bottom line.

    NFT and Crypto will only be in one off games that can milk whales with money they already throw away, the issue of SE baacking NFT and how this does involve XIV, just not in the way everyone is thinking, NFT is affecting the current semi-conductor shortage. XIV is suffering from it, you see how it's a bit of a smack to the face of XIV players. It's Hypocritical and Disrespectful to the dev team who are about to release new content, and the players who will have to suffer the log in queues.

    In closing, a Billion Dollar company, doesn;t care about you, or how much you love the game. Yoshi P is not the company, just a worker within, same goes for the dev team. But SE the company housing them is, well they're kinda scummy as far as JP companies go.
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