Mods and cheat engine

[JanVanding]

I always had the believe that using cactbot is cheating the learning process, not the end result. Cheating as in taking an unintended shortcut. But in the end I dont think you have any real advantage over someone just playing and knowing the fight well. It is kinda cringe however if someone has to cancel raid days because cactbot isnt updated.

Now that is a more fair analysis, that it does assist speeding up the learning process and I completely agree that people being that reliant on it that they can't raid without it probably need to be made to run without it.

[Kolaina]

There seems to be a part in yoshi p’s statement that includes about things being ok if it’s not modifying anything. But I guess we’ll just pretend that part doesn’t exist as it goes against the narrative

Edit: reading further into it, he said pertaining to calculators, to please don’t use them. External tools are prohibited and you can get banned.

He said discord and stuff are fine, but not the others people seem so set on defending and manipulating yoshi’s statements

[Sarevok_Thordin]

People are just trying to justify it considering that they are feeling forced to use things like lag compensators just to play MCH and the like properly.

[JanVanding]

I'd like to add another point on the Cactbot thing.

Certain raids like E6S and P3S are hell for people with Deuteranomaly as there's no colourblind option that fixes it.

As someone with Deuteranomaly I struggled like hell with E6 and P3N simply because I couldn't see the differences in colour tones because near colours look exactly the same to me, I have to look for shapes and movement animations which might take me an extra second to decipher.

Cactbot does fix that problem for me, not because I need to rely on it because mechanically inept.

Because I literally cannot see near colours at all and SE has no option in their colourblindness modes that deals with it.

So you want to call me a cheater for finding a way to address a disability that SE failed to account for?

That probably says more about you and your ignorance tbh

[Rolder50]

I'd like to add another point on the Cactbot thing.

Certain raids like E6S and P3S are hell for people with Deuteranomaly as there's no colourblind option that fixes it.

As someone with Deuteranomaly I struggled like hell with E6 and P3N simply because I couldn't see the differences in colour tones because near colours look exactly the same to me, I have to look for shapes and movement animations which might take me an extra second to decipher.

Cactbot does fix that problem for me, not because I need to rely on it because mechanically inept.

Because I literally cannot see near colours at all and SE has no option in their colourblindness modes that deals with it.

So you want to call me a cheater for finding a way to address a disability that SE failed to account for?

That probably says more about you and your ignorance tbh

Even for those who are not colorblind, P3 is kinda terrible with all the red on red animations, with a red floor and everything. And lord have mercy on you if you're playing a summoner with their VFX to go on top.

[JanVanding]

Even for those who are not colorblind, P3 is kinda terrible with all the red on red animations, with a red floor and everything. And lord have mercy on you if you're playing a summoner with their VFX to go on top.

They really didn't QA it properly at all, I get they were pressed for time but it's just plain awful.

[JanVanding]

A member of my raid-group was using it to assist them in solving personal responsibility mechanics that couldn't reliably be called for them by myself, .

Busted.

Those that protest the loudest are usually the worst offenders

It was your friend....rigggght

[JanVanding]

Furthermore, it was your raid right? So if Cactbot was "cheating" in your eyes, but you knew they were using it, why didn't you kick them?

Ohh that's right, because you stood to benefit!

So Cactbot = bad, but only if you don't benefit from it.

If you do, let's act like that never happened.

We call that being a massive hypocrite.

[LittleImp]

Busted.

Those that protest the loudest are usually the worst offenders

It was your friend....rigggght

Keep flailing, you lost this argument a long, long time ago.

[JanVanding]

Keep flailing, you lost this argument a long, long time ago.

There's no argument to be had, you admitted to being okay with what you consider "cheating" as long as you're benefiting.

You are a hypocrite and all your "work" and achievements are cheapened by it right?