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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    It doesn't just call out mechanics. It solves mechanics, and tells you what to do. It is not comparable to a human shot-caller. I don't really mind if people with rare disabilities use certain things for accessibility purposes, and there's an important difference between a trigger that just says "Three" when you get 3 above your head, versus a cactbot module that reads 3 different divebomb coordinates and then actively tells you where you need to stand because you have 3.
    So was I resolving mechanics for other people. So were my friends resolving mechanics for me when I couldn't tell which direction to go on E10S's shadows. Or when the party leader called out where to go for during E9S's pizza cuts. But just because I had people doing call-outs, it didn't mean I didn't bother to learn the fight or resolve the mechanics by myself. Hell, often times I wanted to do it on my own and muted the person in question because I didn't want to be told where to go when I didn't need to.
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    So was I resolving mechanics for other people. So were my friends resolving mechanics for me when I couldn't tell which direction to go on E10S's shadows. Or when the party leader called out where to go for during E9S's pizza cuts. But just because I had people doing call-outs, it didn't mean I didn't bother to learn the fight or resolve the mechanics by myself. Hell, often times I wanted to do it on my own and muted the person in question because I didn't want to be told where to go when I didn't need to.
    E10S has been the only fight I’ve heavily relied on things like callouts in a while because I couldn’t see his shadows very well. The design of black shadow on top of black boss just could not be processed by my eyeballs. I agree with the overall sentiment that using shotcalls—be it TTS triggers or a raid leader calling them—doesn’t mean one doesn’t learn the fight or the mechanic. Like with my Nael example: having ACT call out “Dynamo > Thermo” doesn’t absolve the player of properly understanding and executing it. If you don’t understand what Dynamo does or what Thermo does—or what Chariot does especially—you cannot react accordingly in a timely manner and you will get killed.
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