Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
I’m aware of how the Nael triggers work, but I still don’t see how it would be considered “cheating” but someone shot-calling in Discord is not. People who do not translate and process the quotes fast enough have already failed the mechanic because the reaction time is incredibly short, and not everyone can process at the same speed. When UCoB released, most groups used the triggers because it was too cumbersome to read a chat log message or chat bubble. Especially the old quotes that were not nearly as straight forward as the ones the devs changed them to in ShB.
You're aware, but sorta misrepresenting them to make your stance appear more reasonable.

It's automation by a machine which by nature cannot make human errors and does not need to spend time learning. You import an XML or download Cactbot and you're good to. The majority of UWU groups use AM for titan gaols, the majority of DSR groups use AM for Wroth flames. The reality is, many many people doing Ultimate are driven more so by their pursuit of the achievement of clearing and the clout that comes with it, versus some deep passion for the content and mechanics themselves. Addons have become normalized within the Ultimate community itself, and it could be argued that their ubiquity and acceptance precludes them from being considered cheating within the context of that player-driven space. There is virtually no one in that community that is going to go "Omg, you used AM for titan gaols, your UWU clear is illegitimate." That said, these addons are still cheating in the greater scheme of things. They are explicitly prohibited by the developers, to the degree that the latest worlds-first race prompted a crackdown on people using them. If SE, who in this case is the organization handing out the clear achievements, deems something as cheating, it's cheating, plain and simple. It's SE's intention that these encounters be solved without the assistance of such tools, and a heavier reliance on human communication.

I don't think there's anything wrong with disagreeing with SEs definition of cheating or requesting they implement official third party support. It would be a much better use of the energy people are spending trying to redefine what is or is not cheating. Ironically enough, I write automation software for a living, and if SE offered official support for third party stuff you can guarantee I'd be all over it in a heartbeat lol.