Mods and cheat engine

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Straight lie, here is zepla talking very specifically after he was banned and showing the telegraph mod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hgr8W03Tk0

Zepla's video was simply showing the telegraph thingy from a different reddit post that you could clearly see from 2s of actually watching and comparing the reddit thread titles, Bagel wasn't using it. She even says right after the Bagel clip: "Here's another thing I want to show you." Which shows the two clips were unrelated. If you're going to argue he was banned for certain things, its best to get properly researched on what caused his ban.

The only thing he got banned for was the numbers under buffs add-on. My group watched Bagel all the time while we were world racing for information gathering, there wasn't any time at all before his ban, that he was using telegraph hacks. That being said, think about how ludicrous your statement would sound. It took nearly half of the first day for most streamer groups to even see the mechanic that telegraph hack is showing in that clip - without knowing how the mechanic functions, its impossible to make a telegraph hack since you have zero idea what you're supposed to be telegraphing. These hacks would have come, a week later after DSR was released at the earliest, a far cry from day/week 1.

Another straight lie, a friend of mine was using those to escape AFK bans, and both of them were blocked. There were other ways people found to avoid those two and it is even in one of the weekly update letters (as far as you are talking straight lies as I showed above, i will not waste time to look for this one).

I know of 5 different friends who used those plugins for ACT that avoided the auto-logout during EW's release and they worked flawlessly as they were still online in the same spot 13 hours later. Square has never 'trapped' any game coding; its a waste of dev time, money, and resources to do so. The most they do on a new patch is scramble the opcodes most add-ons use to communicate with certain variables in the game.

Also nice dodging; the burden of proof in this instance falls on you if you want to make a statement on official wording without sourcing. That being said, the post you're referring to is them talking about methods of circumventing the afk timer they patched out of the game; not 'trapping' the game code, which has a massive different connotation since it implies an undercover change intent on exposing something, when all they did was announce they were fixing several exploits players could use to get around the afk timer, the literal opposite of a trap which requires ignorance on the target's part to fall into it.

[Grebeny]

That being said, the post you're referring to is them talking about methods of circumventing the afk timer they patched out of the game; not 'trapping' the game code, which has a massive different connotation since it implies an undercover change intent on exposing something, when all they did was announce they were fixing several exploits players could use to get around the afk timer, the literal opposite of a trap which requires ignorance on the target's part to fall into it.

You didn't sourced any of your information. And clearly said there were no addons doing telegraphs during this ultimate, now claiming "but its from another user". The other thing is, I watched him half hour and I noticed instantly he had marker on the cast bar showing him when he is able to move during cast, he had something showing him when to press skill to send it in queue and when he was banned, his friends told him "we told you" because they knew he was cheating and he will get banned and warned him about it before they started the prog. And yes at release the none ban plugin was working, they added the code week or two after release. There are ways for data mining, but I don't want to promote any of this to explain how simple telegraphs may be added at new content, the tools they have now are quite a lot advanced, of course. But even just after the big drama for the streamers, someone posted how to make a perfect run of the ultimate with only 4 addons installed. He intentionally didn't posted the addons, but I will not spread the video too. It was just a show how the battle can be fully automated because of the lack of control of addons.

[MrSigy]

. He intentionally didn't posted the addons, but I will not spread the video too. It was just a show how the battle can be fully automated because of the lack of control of addons.

Tbh you are missing the point entirely. ACT triggers are the real cheats, generally made by players themselves during when it's relevent and in my book is already too much yet world 1st players abuse them. These addons are blatently cheats and nobody would ever consider doing ultimate with them if they care about the content. Also they are only made/released a lot later into the release cycle where they become obsolete.

Your response gets the same reaction for me as Zepla complaining about these addons, I don't give 2 cents abouts your opinion because it's worthless and holds no meaning.

[redheadturk]

Tbh you are missing the point entirely. ACT triggers are the real cheats, generally made by players themselves during when it's relevent and in my book is already too much yet world 1st players abuse them. These addons are blatently cheats and nobody would ever consider doing ultimate with them if they care about the content. Also they are only made/released a lot later into the release cycle where they become obsolete.

Your response gets the same reaction for me as Zepla complaining about these addons, I don't give 2 cents abouts your opinion because it's worthless and holds no meaning.

And how are the triggers made? By world firsters doing the content without the triggers so they can write said triggers! They can't even be created without people running the content in the first place.,