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  1. #431
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  2. #432
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    I see many using the Cheat Engine so they can make their characters sit anywhere they want, even the /doze emote on surfaces. Isn't it time to implement a system so such things can't be used? Also make it so the game files can't be modified.
    And if Square Enix do allow mods, then they also should open the PlayStation for using mods so it's fair for more players.
    easy solution, walk away.

    It does not effect gameplay, and looks a hell of alot better than sitting on a ledge using /groundsit.

    I applaud the people that do this, makes the world more realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saranade View Post
    "Indeed, we’ve only released duties that we have proven can be beaten with the game’s standard features." - Yoshi P." - do you need any other clarification?
    Evidently, you do. This queue doesn't address what I said. Their official stance is not to use third party programs yet they openly acknowledge it's a grey area due to their value and unwillingness to police what we install. The whole point of a grey area is even if something is technically against the rules, said rules will not necessarily enforced unless it becomes a problem.

    Yoshida spells this out here.

    On the subject on clearing content. I never said people required third party programs to clear content. What I said is the raid scene as a whole would die off because people want to use them. FFlogs literally keeps Savage relevant since there's no reason to even bother with the content unless an Ultimate exists. There are so many basic quality of life plugins a good chunk of players would quit the game on the whole if those were banned. Nevermind the mod community, which is massive nowadays. To give you a perspective on just how prevalent these programs are, the estimated amount of active players using them is over 300k.

    Yoshida and the dev team are well aware of just how ubiquitous these programs have become and the impact it would have if they were ever banned. It wouldn't be profitable. Hence why they don't enforce the ToS unless players are harassing others.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 08-04-2022 at 12:11 PM.
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    I'm just going to drop this here
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExsRph2Fqg&t=548s
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  5. #435
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    I see many using the Cheat Engine so they can make their characters sit anywhere they want, even the /doze emote on surfaces. Isn't it time to implement a system so such things can't be used? Also make it so the game files can't be modified.
    Release /chairsit emote? Yes. Make it so files can't be modified or start scanning user PC acitivity? No. Anti-cheat should be limited to PvP and PVE things. Don't be a virtual Karen, get the game on PC if you want to mod just like almost every other game in existence requires.

    People sitting around or modifying outfits aren't hurting you, aren't affecting you in any way. Many of their mods are things that Square themselves were supposed to fix or add, like hats for Hrothgar or Viera. Come on, man.
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  6. #436
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    Disingenuous the thread.
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  7. #437
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    easy solution, walk away.

    It does not effect gameplay, and looks a hell of alot better than sitting on a ledge using /groundsit.

    I applaud the people that do this, makes the world more realistic.
    Yea it might look harmless but it's injecting code and manipulating game code as shown on the YouTube videos earlier.
    Zepla's video
    Xenosyz video

    User Agreement if someone did forget about it
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    Last edited by Apeachs; 08-04-2022 at 03:56 PM.

  8. #438
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    Yea it might look harmless but it's injecting code and manipulating game code as shown on the YouTube videos earlier.
    Zepla's video
    Xenosyz video

    User Agreement if someone did forget about it
    there is a fine distinction between alot of the QoL plugins and texture mods, and the flat out cheating mods like the ones that streamer got caught with.
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  9. #439
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    there is a fine distinction between alot of the QoL plugins and texture mods, and the flat out cheating mods like the ones that streamer got caught with.
    Technically there is no difference between them. You can make a "moral" distinction and say, there are "good mods" and "bad mods". But this is plain double standards.



    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeachs View Post
    Yea it might look harmless but it's injecting code and manipulating game code as shown on the YouTube videos earlier.
    Zepla's video
    Xenosyz video

    User Agreement if someone did forget about it
    Huge difference between using a hook to catch a sitting animation from a chair and using automated UI tools that display incomming/outgoing data from the game such as the ones in those videos.
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