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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Some people don't like the value of difficult/prestigious achievements being cheapened by people cheating using bots and other third party programs and telling them to "grow up" is about as immature as you're insinuating they are for disliking it.
    ... No ?

    Nobody gives a damn what you do with your playtime, why would you care what I do with mine ? Then again, everything others do do NOT affect your gameplay, your titles, or whatever. Just let go of it.

    Half of the legend titles have been bought for years now, and every legit legend I know doesn't care. As usual, midcores are where the issue lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    ... No ?

    Nobody gives a damn what you do with your playtime, why would you care what I do with mine ? Then again, everything others do do NOT affect your gameplay, your titles, or whatever. Just let go of it.

    Half of the legend titles have been bought for years now, and every legit legend I know doesn't care. As usual, midcores are where the issue lies.
    Same reason why people care if you take drugs when you run for the Olympics. But hey i mean why do they care it's my body!

    Ofc most stuff doesn't affect others, i get that. But where it does it is kinda shitty. Like pvp etc. and yeah even ultimates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Same reason why people care if you take drugs when you run for the Olympics. But hey i mean why do they care it's my body!
    Yeah, but there's only one gold medal per four year. Meanwhile there will always be legend titles to be "earned", whatever the way.

    Plus, I haven't heard of any addons that does anything in pvp. I even went ouf of my way to check if the triple triad solver can be used to abuse triple triad tournaments, and it is disabled in a PvP setting. Surely you can make it work if you modify things in the code of it, but it is designed for PvE only. Regarding feast or frontline... As I said, I haven't heard of any plugin that does anything in that context. They may exist, but it's certainly not what we're discussing here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    Plus, I haven't heard of any addons that does anything in pvp.
    Couple of seasons ago some kind of 3rd party programs became very obnoxious and wide spread in Feast. Every physical ranged player interrupted enemies melee/ranged LB's within 0,001s of cast each time. Like the animation even didn't start for them before the LB got cancelled by a player using external programs to silence it for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Couple of seasons ago some kind of 3rd party programs became very obnoxious and wide spread in Feast. Every physical ranged player interrupted enemies melee/ranged LB's within 0,001s of cast each time. Like the animation even didn't start for them before the LB got cancelled by a player using external programs to silence it for them.
    I didn't know about that, and yes, that's an issue. These (as in addons that make things easier for you) shouldn't exist in a PvP setting. I'm not sure how SE can fix that, though, except by banning cheaters, which is probably how it ended anyway.

    My point remains for everything PvE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Same reason why people care if you take drugs when you run for the Olympics. But hey i mean why do they care it's my body!

    Ofc most stuff doesn't affect others, i get that. But where it does it is kinda shitty. Like pvp etc. and yeah even ultimates.
    Are we really comparin plugins to drug use?

    How did we get here?

    I can understand pvp (The real issue in pvp content isn't even plugins btw, but people manipulating Feast ranks by in game means like, afking on the side for example) but ultimates or other PvE content is where you lose me. You can easily just make your own static and require everyone be plugin-free?
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 01-19-2022 at 10:11 PM.