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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    For the record I did not say any of that. You did. Handicap isn't a derogatory word. If you define it as such i have no control over that and it isn't my business.
    Shaders to overcome a physical limitation isn't the same as an advantage (or disadvantage) given to one side. nor did i advocate for discrimination based on that. Mods to alleviate problems like that (or replacing spider mobs with anything else) is definitely where mods shine.
    Handicap IS a derogatory word in the UK and Europe because it's used to aggressively against people with mental and physical disabilities.

    I have Deuteronomy, I literally can't see anything in P3 because it's all Orange and my eyes wont account for near colour shades, so I have to strain looking for shapes and patterns, which puts me at a disadvantage because it will take me an extra second to react to a mechanic than it normally would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Handicap IS a derogatory word in the UK and Europe because it's used to aggressively against people with mental and physical disabilities.
    So, I should take offense at the word woman because mysogynists use it in a deragotary way, gotcha.
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    Player JanVanding's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    So, I should take offense at the word woman because mysogynists use it in a deragotary way, gotcha.
    context is important always. Note the context they offered WAS to use it in a derogatory way (to insult the ability and/or intelligence of other players) you see this is the thing with "Muh free speech" types.

    You're free to say whatever you like, but there are consequences for using words in a derogatory context.

    You wish to use the word Handicap? Fine

    You wish to use it in a way that surmises people are low intelligence or physically incapable? That's using it in a discriminatory manner, stuff that can get you not only suspended/banned from the forums, but banned from the game.

    That's the "Consequences"
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    Last edited by JanVanding; 01-18-2022 at 06:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    context is important always. Note the context they offered WAS to use it in a derogatory way (to insult the ability and/or intelligence of other players) you see this is the thing with "Muh free speech" types.

    You're free to say whatever you like, but there are consequences for using words in a derogatory context.

    You wish to word the word Handicap? Fine

    You wish to use it in a way that surmises people are low intelligence or physically incapable? That's using it in a discriminatory manner, stuff that can get you not only suspended/banned from the forums, but banned from the game.

    That's the "Consequences"
    Stop. Handicapped is not a derogatory term, that's why they have handicap parking spots, handicap stickers for your car, and handicap stalls in bathrooms, but I guess these things are derogatory in existence then? Every one wants to turn every word into something it isn't. It's time to stop.
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