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    It doesn't happen because the community fights back against mods and here we are in a thread trying to justify mod use because it doesn't effect me personally.
    Funny how that works.
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    It doesn't happen because the community fights back against mods and here we are in a thread trying to justify mod use because it doesn't effect me personally.
    Funny how that works.
    Not really, not when the community turns it into a witch hunt as to who is using parsers, who is using graphic enhancers. A large part of the community doesn't care if it doesn't affect game play or other players. The loud part of the community wants to witch hunt and ban everyone with a different point of view than them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    It doesn't happen because the community fights back against mods and here we are in a thread trying to justify mod use because it doesn't effect me personally.
    Funny how that works.
    We don't fight back against mods. Look at the raiding scene and you see the mass use of ACT and FFLogs. It has been a thing since ARR, always has been and always will be. You are pretty much wrong on all accounts as others in this thread have pointed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yahallo View Post
    We don't fight back against mods. Look at the raiding scene and you see the mass use of ACT and FFLogs. It has been a thing since ARR, always has been and always will be. You are pretty much wrong on all accounts as others in this thread have pointed out.
    Gasp raiders don't fight mods meant to be used while raiding and just tip toe around parsers discriminating against classes that do 2% less damage. shocking. Please stop being disingenuous. All it takes is a trip to the dps/tank/healer forums to see the panic posts about perceived numbers possibly maybe preventing classes from joining groups, self imposed or otherwise.
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    Gasp raiders don't fight mods meant to be used while raiding and just tip toe around parsers discriminating against classes that do 2% less damage. shocking. Please stop being disingenuous. All it takes is a trip to the dps/tank/healer forums to see the panic posts about perceived numbers possibly maybe preventing classes from joining groups, self imposed or otherwise.
    At this point every class has completed savage. So claiming classes are discriminated against for 2% less damage is very inaccurate. And yes there is a problem with class balance right now and its far greater than a 2% difference. If you did any research you would know this. The class with the smallest percentage of playersr that have cleared is MCH. And that is because SE has held the class at lower DPS for some fantasy ranged tax that players like you have made up, so less people play the class in general. I don't understand how people think this community is so friendly when you have people making up statistics to fit there narrative. Sadly this game is full of players that believe they play this game this way so it should go above and beyond to fit there needs and no one elses.

    Those players are the problem, and those players are why there is boring repetitive content, poor class design, and a toxic environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    Gasp raiders don't fight mods meant to be used while raiding and just tip toe around parsers discriminating against classes that do 2% less damage. shocking. Please stop being disingenuous. All it takes is a trip to the dps/tank/healer forums to see the panic posts about perceived numbers possibly maybe preventing classes from joining groups, self imposed or otherwise.
    Forum users are a minority and I see plenty of people using the lower DPS classes in Savage. You are the one being disingenuous here. Any raider with their salt knows that it is possible to clear with any job and that if you are hitting enrage, it is not because of the job.
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    Last edited by Yahallo; 01-18-2022 at 06:46 AM.