Mods and cheat engine

[JadedPurity]

Worse things have been going on for years, but no. Ledge sitting is the straw that breaks the camels back. You ppl have wierd priorities.

[VirusOnline]

Worse things have been going on for years, but no. Ledge sitting is the straw that breaks the camels back. You ppl have wierd priorities.

Probably because it's the easiest and most obvious visual clue that someone is modifying their game files.
That is what cheat engine does. It modifies game files/game process and everyone can see it and everyone knows it.
I don't really care tbh but people wanna be seen so they get seen lol.

[JadedPurity]

Probably because it's the easiest and most obvious visual clue that someone is modifying their game files.
That is what cheat engine does. It modifies game files/game process and everyone can see it and everyone knows it.
I don't really care tbh but people wanna be seen so they get seen lol.

Yes, but this is minimal compared to other things (that SE knows about has has ALWAYS known about, and does nothing about as long as people keep quiet.) If they were going to do something it would have started there. Theyre not going to pick out people harmlessly sitting on ledges as the first thing they address. When people come here to complain about things that dont affect them in any way, my first thought will always be theyre just mad that they can't do it too. They dont care one bit that people are modifying files. They only care because they can't join the club and if they could they would be right on post just like this one telling the poster to stop crying and suck it up.

[VirusOnline]

Yes, but this is minimal compared to other things (that SE knows about has has ALWAYS known about, and does nothing about as long as people keep quiet.) If they were going to do something it would have started there. Theyre not going to pick out people harmlessly sitting on ledges as the first thing they address. When people come here to complain about things that dont affect them in any way, my first thought will always be theyre just mad that they can't do it too. They dont care one bit that people are modifying files. They only care because they can't join the club and if they could they would be right on post just like this one telling the poster to stop crying and suck it up.

Who knows. It's the whole Limsa bean mindset really and I don't care for it personally.
I mean look at parsers. No one would know unless you said something, but people still piss and moan about some unseen threat to their ego lol.

Then again, this is interesting.
The ledge sit is quite innocent despite the fact that it does go against ToS and may be doing more.
I won't presume to know how it all works, but I'm making an assumption that these type of mods like the ledge sit that affect what other players can see is a result of it sending information to the server itself meaning this is not a mod that's affecting the user's own client but actually sending faulty information to a server that is not your IP/personal hardware. It's one thing to modify your own client, it's another to send modified information to a server.

[Lunatory]

The ledge sit is quite innocent despite the fact that it does go against ToS and may be doing more.
I won't presume to know how it all works, but I'm making an assumption that these type of mods like the ledge sit that affect what other players can see is a result of it sending information to the server itself meaning this is not a mod that's affecting the user's own client but actually sending faulty information to a server that is not your IP/personal hardware. It's one thing to modify your own client, it's another to send modified information to a server.

While I can not speak for the Cheat Engine method, the same can be replicated by hex editing the hotbar file in your My Games folder. The /sit and /doze emotes function as shortcuts and the game (client) will decide which actual emote to send to the server. If the client detects you sitting on a chair, you'll play the chairsit emote. If not, you get the groundsit emote.

You hex edit a hotbar slot to make you play the chairsit emote directly rather than the normal /sit shortcut. The server will accept this input since /chairsit is a legitimate emote and the server does not care to double check if you are in fact on a chair.
If I wanted to I could back up my hotbar file to SE's servers using the character select screen and load it up on my Playstation and proceed to chairsit anywhere on the Playstation version of the game. No network hacking required in the slightest. Just manually firing an emote that is normally only fired through /sit or /doze. I imagine the Cheat Engine version does just this as well?