Mods and cheat engine

[LittleImp]

Even RNG mechanics have a visual action the boss makes before the move is executed or it has a cast bar.

Cactbot can intercept network packets and predict some of these mechanics before the visual or castbar is executed client-side. This is something that is 100% impossible for a human shot-caller to do.

Cactbot can make 8 individual callouts simultaneously, giving separate instructions to each user that has it installed based on things like specific debuffs and such. A human shot-caller cannot do this.

Cactbot makes callouts instantaneously and never makes mistakes, even in fights that a group is brand new to. A human shot-caller cannot do this.

Cactbot displays a text overlay on your screen with specific instructions for some mechanics, as well as having a graphical timeline of all upcoming mechanics with their exact timestamps.

But in reality there is no difference between cactpot/act calling out a mechanic and a person over discord calling out a mechanic.

Cactbot is cheating, and has created a generation of useless players that sandbag extremely hard on patch days.

[JanVanding]

Cactbot can intercept network packets and predict some of these mechanics before the visual or castbar is executed client-side. This is something that is 100% impossible for a human shot-caller to do.

Cactbot can make 8 individual callouts simultaneously, giving separate instructions to each user that has it installed based on things like specific debuffs and such. A human shot-caller cannot do this.

Cactbot makes callouts instantaneously and never makes mistakes, even in fights that a group is brand new to. A human shot-caller cannot do this.

Cactbot displays a text overlay on your screen with specific instructions for some mechanics, as well as having a graphical timeline of all upcoming mechanics with their exact timestamps.



Cactbot is cheating, and has created a generation of useless players that sandbag extremely hard on patch days.

Say you've never seen Cactbot in use without saying it.

[jamjeeshoul77]

Say you've never seen Cactbot in use without saying it.

Are you serious? What he said is exactly true. Why are you denying that? What do you gain? I’m so confused why people are flat out denying that Cactbot calls out mechanics by reading hidden triggers that are unable to be read by a human mid-fight, which allows it to call out mechanics before the visual indicators even play. It’s literally cheating. Why do you deny this? Is it because you depend on it to perform? Why do you deny it?

[JanVanding]

Are you serious? What he said is exactly true. Why are you denying that? What do you gain? I’m so confused why people are flat out denying that Cactbot calls out mechanics by reading hidden triggers that are unable to be read by a human mid-fight, which allows it to call out mechanics before the visual indicators even play. It’s literally cheating. Why do you deny this? Is it because you depend on it to perform? Why do you deny it?

Mate if it was injecting into network code, there would be a noticeable lag

[LittleImp]

Say you've never seen Cactbot in use without saying it.

I've literally read through Cactbots public sourcecode and basically all of its documentation. I also dabbled in manually writing triggers for similar plugins like trigonometry way back in the day when I was newer to the game.

You just don't like the idea that it's cheating because acceptance of that fact would probably devalue your own accomplishments.

[JanVanding]

I've literally read through Cactbots public sourcecode and basically all of its documentation. I also dabbled in manually writing triggers for similar plugins like trigonometry way back in the day when I was newer to the game.

You just don't like the idea that it's cheating because acceptance of that fact would probably devalue your own accomplishments.

Is weak auras cheating in WoW?

Well?

Oh no it isn't.

I play the game perfectly fine without it, thank you very much.

put it this way, watching a video, using any resources that explains mechanics and having diagrams up on another screen or phone would be cheating in your eyes and that's the problem here isn't it?

You're not actually mad about Cactbot, you're mad that other people are raiding and you don't want them in your exclusive club.

Hell markers would be cheating in your opinion and I've cleared stuff with no markers either, but you stay salty and wrapped in your little world of hateful spite, the rest of us will just play the game and enjoy progressing.

Don't much care about your devalued titles which others have gotten through ACTUAL cheating, you know getting someone else to actually pilot their character? That to me is a far bigger problem than a Weak Auras style prompt.

[LittleImp]

Is weak auras cheating in WoW?

Well?

No, because Blizzard openly condones those plugins and even offers a rich API to facilitate them working, whereas SE expressly forbids their use. In cases where addons have run afoul of the devs vision in WoW, they've shut them down. You probably should have spent more time thinking that one over lmao.

I play the game perfectly fine without it, thank you very much.

/doubt

put it this way, watching a video, using any resources that explains mechanics and having diagrams up on another screen or phone would be cheating in your eyes and that's the problem here isn't it?

How are these two things even comparable? Guides don't offer active, dynamic assistance based on exactly what is going on in your personal game instance. You are stretching waaay too hard.

Hell markers would be cheating in your opinion and I've cleared stuff with no markers either, but you stay salty and wrapped in your little world of hateful spite, the rest of us will just play the game and enjoy progressing.

Don't much care about your devalued titles which others have gotten through ACTUAL cheating, you know getting someone else to actually pilot their character? That to me is a far bigger problem than a Weak Auras style prompt.

Markers are... a feature of the game. Not a third party piece of software, explicitly prohibited by the company that runs the game. >.>

You're not actually mad about Cactbot, you're mad that other people are raiding and you don't want them in your exclusive club.

No, I teach people raids all the time and shotcall for pugs. I don't like Cactbot because it doesn't actually empower players, it actively makes them worse and builds unhealthy reliance. Most of my opinion about Cactbot actually comes from time I've spent mentoring people, and the problems I've observed around its use.

[JanVanding]

No, because Blizzard openly condones those plugins and even offers a rich API to facilitate them working, whereas SE expressly forbids their use. In cases where addons have run afoul of the devs vision in WoW, they've shut them down. You probably should have spent more time thinking that one over lmao.



/doubt



How are these two things even comparable? Guides don't offer active, dynamic assistance based on exactly what is going on in your personal game instance. You are stretching waaay too hard.



Markers are... a feature of the game. Not a third party piece of software, explicitly prohibited by the company that runs the game. >.>



No, I teach people raids all the time and shotcall for pugs. I don't like Cactbot because it doesn't actually empower players, it actively makes them worse and builds unhealthy reliance. Most of my opinion about Cactbot actually comes from time I've spent mentoring people, and the problems I've observed around its use.

word salad to say you also don't condone ACT either.

or any mods at all for that matter.

Yep, found the Gate Keeper masquerading as something else.

[kejakalope]

word salad to say you also don't condone ACT either.

or any mods at all for that matter.

Yep, found the Gate Keeper masquerading as something else.

Please come back with that set of goalposts, other people were using them.

[LittleImp]

word salad to say you also don't condone ACT either.

or any mods at all for that matter.

Yep, found the Gate Keeper masquerading as something else.

Lord, at this rate we're going to have aimbotters crying they're being gatekept.