Mods and cheat engine

[jamjeeshoul77]

This thread blows my mind. Cactbot literally tells you mechanics before the animations even happen. It’s a significant advantage over console players for many mechanics, even in ULTIMATES. If the game was only PC it wouldn’t be that big a deal, but it’s really insane how people convince themselves it’s fair that Square turns a blind eye to these things when half their playerbase is unable to use them. It really blows my mind

[IdowhatIwant]

This thread blows my mind. Cactbot literally tells you mechanics before the animations even happen. It’s a significant advantage over console players for many mechanics, even in ULTIMATES. If the game was only PC it wouldn’t be that big a deal, but it’s really insane how people convince themselves it’s fair that Square turns a blind eye to these things when half their playerbase is unable to use them. It really blows my mind

What is the difference though between cactbot and some one calling out mechanics over discord which is another thing console players do not have access to.

[jamjeeshoul77]

What is the difference though between cactbot and some one calling out mechanics over discord which is another thing console players do not have access to.

I wasn’t aware people who do call outs are able to read hidden triggers in the client’s files to call out RNG mechanics before the animation even happens. It’s cheating….how is this not obvious? Why do people defend this?

Going back and reading people’s comments on these things, calling them “calculators” or “crutches”. It’s like people are intentionally ignoring the fact that these plugins tell you mechanics before the game gives visual indicators for mechanics. It’s cheating, it literally hacks the game’s files and reads hidden triggers that the fight designers don’t want the player to know. Instead of looking where the bad thing is coming from, it tells you where it’s coming from before you’re even humanly able to know where it’s coming from.

It’s so incredibly simple what these things are yet people just seem to love defending them and disagreeing with people who call it out.

[IdowhatIwant]

I wasn’t aware people who do call outs are able to read hidden triggers in the client’s files to call out RNG mechanics before the animation even happens. It’s cheating….how is this not obvious? Why do people defend this?

Going back and reading people’s comments on these things, calling them “calculators” or “crutches”. It’s like people are intentionally ignoring the fact that these plugins tell you mechanics before the game gives visual indicators for mechanics. It’s cheating, it literally hacks the game’s files and reads hidden triggers that the fight designers don’t want the player to know. Instead of looking where the bad thing is coming from, it tells you where it’s coming from before you’re even humanly able to know where it’s coming from.

It’s so incredibly simple what these things are yet people just seem to love defending them and disagreeing with people who call it out.

Even RNG mechanics have a visual action the boss makes before the move is executed or it has a cast bar. Most of the fights in this game are heavily scripted though with very few RNG mechanics. This was just a poorly thought out way to deflect the question because you know what the answer is. There is no difference. In then end you should be able to react accordingly when you see these actions. Some people lack the attention span or reaction speed to do this and benefit from a call out on the mechanic more so than others. But in reality there is no difference between cactpot/act calling out a mechanic and a person over discord calling out a mechanic.

[Ruru_Nayu]

Even RNG mechanics have a visual action the boss makes before the move is executed or it has a cast bar. Most of the fights in this game are heavily scripted though with very few RNG mechanics. This was just a poorly thought out way to deflect the question because you know what the answer is. There is no difference. In then end you should be able to react accordingly when you see these actions. Some people lack the attention span or reaction speed to do this and benefit from a call out on the mechanic more so than others. But in reality there is no difference between cactpot/act calling out a mechanic and a person over discord calling out a mechanic.

Using Cactbot makes you a bad player change my mind.

[IdowhatIwant]

Using Cactbot makes you a bad player change my mind.

What if I don't want to change your mind cause your mind is pure.

[Ruru_Nayu]

What if I don't want to change your mind cause your mind is pure.

Seems fair!

[LittleImp]

Even RNG mechanics have a visual action the boss makes before the move is executed or it has a cast bar.

Cactbot can intercept network packets and predict some of these mechanics before the visual or castbar is executed client-side. This is something that is 100% impossible for a human shot-caller to do.

Cactbot can make 8 individual callouts simultaneously, giving separate instructions to each user that has it installed based on things like specific debuffs and such. A human shot-caller cannot do this.

Cactbot makes callouts instantaneously and never makes mistakes, even in fights that a group is brand new to. A human shot-caller cannot do this.

Cactbot displays a text overlay on your screen with specific instructions for some mechanics, as well as having a graphical timeline of all upcoming mechanics with their exact timestamps.

But in reality there is no difference between cactpot/act calling out a mechanic and a person over discord calling out a mechanic.

Cactbot is cheating, and has created a generation of useless players that sandbag extremely hard on patch days.

[JanVanding]

Cactbot can intercept network packets and predict some of these mechanics before the visual or castbar is executed client-side. This is something that is 100% impossible for a human shot-caller to do.

Cactbot can make 8 individual callouts simultaneously, giving separate instructions to each user that has it installed based on things like specific debuffs and such. A human shot-caller cannot do this.

Cactbot makes callouts instantaneously and never makes mistakes, even in fights that a group is brand new to. A human shot-caller cannot do this.

Cactbot displays a text overlay on your screen with specific instructions for some mechanics, as well as having a graphical timeline of all upcoming mechanics with their exact timestamps.



Cactbot is cheating, and has created a generation of useless players that sandbag extremely hard on patch days.

Say you've never seen Cactbot in use without saying it.

[jamjeeshoul77]

Say you've never seen Cactbot in use without saying it.

Are you serious? What he said is exactly true. Why are you denying that? What do you gain? I’m so confused why people are flat out denying that Cactbot calls out mechanics by reading hidden triggers that are unable to be read by a human mid-fight, which allows it to call out mechanics before the visual indicators even play. It’s literally cheating. Why do you deny this? Is it because you depend on it to perform? Why do you deny it?