Mods and cheat engine

[Gameovers]

It isn't hurting you

if you want cool things get a PC

Kindof hard with the chip shortage atm tho.

[IdowhatIwant]

Kindof hard with the chip shortage atm tho.

It's not. PC parts are hard to come by but prebuilts are pretty easy to get still.

[Sarnai]

Oh no, who allowed these people to SIT???

[Eriane_Elis]

Yoshi P says it's gray area. The philosophy of the game is to enjoy it and to not worry about DPS numbers etc... He wants to avoid people being reported for using ACT and other third party programs like texture mods because he find its mundane but it crosses the line when it becomes harassment. Don't ask, don't tell is a pretty obvious policy. Most importantly, he understands that part of the community will want to use such tools and he can't stop and will not want to stop people from using third party applications / modifiers. He said something like "where is the line drawn? You can copy and paste everything in excel and macro it so you know. You can use a calculator and do it by hand, it would take time but you can do it. You can have multiple buttons on a mouse, so is that a third party program?" etc... (A bit paraphrased ofc)

Basically, in a hypothetical situation -- if you use it for your personal references, they can't condone it but they don't want to be bothered by other players reporting this player because it's a waste of time. HOWEVER, if you take those numbers or have a nude mod let's say and you publish it publicly, then that becomes harassment and you will be penalized for harassment first and using a third party tool second.

He doesn't ever want to know what programs you have installed or running, that's our privacy he says. He also doesn't want to see things like "Prove DPS XXX" in party finder as the normal thing and well, there's never going to be official ACT support either because he's 100% confident it will cause harassment.

As long as you're not harassing others, it shouldn't be a problem I think. He's pretty clear that if you want to use it hypothetically, know that if one day they decide to ban third party tools you may get suspended but until then; definitively don't use them to harass other players. I think that players can also get into trouble for needlessly reporting other players about allegedly using third party tools since unless a player says it in chat, there is no evidence.

I don't know his opinion on using bots, or what is considered a bot. Is a macro a bot? Is using an instrument player a bot? I'm not sure. I do know that if there are actual RMT / player bots gathering and playing dungeons I'm sure to report those. But I don't really care about the ones in cities playing music using a third party program. In fact, how the heck do you even play an instrument with a game controller or keyboard? It's really hard, you literally will need a third party program at the very least to connect to your piano.

(reached character limit) pt 1....

[Eriane_Elis]

(pt 2)

At the end of the day I ask you all... Is someone using a third party program to enjoy the game even more, to improve themselves better really a bother to you? What if they have a physical disability and need to use a third party tool to play? This isn't call of duty where it's competitive, there is PvP, yes and there are bots playing PvP and they should be banned. But for the most part, people are using programs like ACT to find out how they can improve their abilities.

We should be thankful that Yoshi P has allowed us to play this game without spyware to preserve our privacy. He is a gamer like us and knows that there are things that are inevitable. Let's be civilized and not break his trust and if hypothetically a third party tool is used, it's not used to harass other players.

Here is Yoshi P's stance (Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6mjiGerU

[Darksummoner]

Is it just me, or am I seeing a ton of these threads where people are wondering what others have on their computers. Like who cares. Is it effecting your gameplay?? Otherwise these threads are useless.

When I log onto this game I am not wondering who is using what mod and why. It does not effect me, so I don't care. I don't pay a monthly sub to wonder what person is using mods and why. But then again I tend to mind my own business and not worry about everyone else.

[Gameovers]

It's not. PC parts are hard to come by but prebuilts are pretty easy to get still.

Really? I guess it'll depend on the build maybe? I never looked into it as all my friends on PC tell me to never go prebuild with a cartoony long list of reasons why.

[Eriane_Elis]

Really? I guess it'll depend on the build maybe? I never looked into it as all my friends on PC tell me to never go prebuild with a cartoony long list of reasons why.

It's perfectly fine to buy pre-built. They're not as expensive as they used to be. I bought one because I didn't want to bother fighting bots buying video cards so I only spent maybe an extra $200 versus if I had built it myself. I did have to replace the front panel fans almost a year later but the cost was negligible. The parts are all ASUS/Samsung/Nvidia/Intel. Don't worry about it, I build my computers whenever I need a new one but because of scalping bots, it's just better to buy a pre-built one. Don't buy a HP/Dell/Compaq etc... You should buy something made with premium parts from Newegg or another vendor where you can see exactly what's inside and has a 1yr warranty. Like I said, don't buy cheap computers like a HP or Dell and you'll be fine. A cheap $1000 computer is more than adequate for FF14 and right now is probably a good time to buy since companies might still be overstocked from Christmas.

[Takamorisan]

Regarding Third Party software as long it doesn't affect other people experience regarding visual and gameplay I have no problem with it. But when you start seeing players doing stuff that you can't this is something that as inoffensive it seems, it gives the image of the game that you can do whatever and exploit everything, requiring to take a hardline stance to crackdown at everything.

[Rinhi]

Today I did see some fellow players that was using Cheat Engine to be able to sit on places there they should not be able to sit. [...] Teleporting to all mining nodes? Making character fly if you have not unlocked flying?

that's a jump and a half to make about someone "editing" an emote