Mods and cheat engine

[IdowhatIwant]

Why are you always so hostile? Try discussing a topic for a change maybe

I don't read that as hostile, and they have a point even Yoshi P has brought this up. The problem is people are turning it into exactly what Yoshi P does not want, a bunch of reporting over petty issues.
That is sadly the FFXIV community in a nut shell report first ask questions never.

[Kolaina]

I don't read that as hostile, and they have a point even Yoshi P has brought this up. The problem is people are turning it into exactly what Yoshi P does not want, a bunch of reporting over petty issues.
That is sadly the FFXIV community in a nut shell report first ask questions never.

“But you don’t want to accept that” and “ so you try to tell us” are hostile. Especially with the context of their post history

[IdowhatIwant]

“But you don’t want to accept that” and “ so you try to tell us” are hostile. Especially with the context of their post history

But I don't accept that, so you try to tell me it is hostile.

[Kolaina]

But I don't accept that, so you try to tell me it is hostile.

Either you’re not following or I’m not. If it’s me not understanding you I apologize. It’s been a long work day. In which case, night

[Shialan]

“But you don’t want to accept that” and “ so you try to tell us” are hostile. Especially with the context of their post history

You are also not discussing anything. You are throwing around your “but Discord and websites and Excel are different” argument, because “the way they get their data is different”. But what's your point? Every single time, I or someone else reminds you that even YOSHI-P said that third-party tool would also mean the software for some macro keyboard or mouse or even Discord. Third-party means third-party.



Do you not know who Yoshi-P is? Even though I wrote multiple times that he is the producer of FFXIV? Basically THE person you go to when you want to know stuff about the official side of the game. So, why are you ignoring what he says and try to actively police the TOS for him, even though he himself says that they won't ever actively hunt down players using any kind of third-party tool?

[dapperfaffer]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...talking_about/
Its an important read for this thread since a number of people seem to not understand SE and Yoshidas stance on 3rd part software.

Continuing on, sorry, just a little bit more. Going back to ACT, it has a function where you can add plugins and with this, you can add ‘’expansions’’. And these expansions, are not part of ACT itself, but are creations form further third parties. And such expansions, destroy game balance and it goes in the game memory, and it does bad things, and from our perspective, there are much more malicious ones as well. And in regards to this, we are very serious and the moment we find evidence, the risks of penalties is extremely high and we want you to understand this. Please keep this in mind. Even on our side, we have preventions, actually we started since around 4.0 and we actually added security to the data packets of certain actions so that players can’t decipher it. This was to observe how the plugin creators reacted and responded. And we are changing the methods continuously…. And… we want you to stop. Basically, we set the rewards based on the game balance…. And so we want this to stop.

[IdowhatIwant]

If you read that whole thing, in a nut shell he is saying. We have to tell you no, you can't, we want you to shut up about using them if you do use them, and we don't want people reporting over usage of them unless it is affecting actual game balance.

[dapperfaffer]

If you read that whole thing, in a nut shell he is saying. We have to tell you no, you can't, we want you to shut up about using them if you do use them, and we don't want people reporting over usage of them unless it is affecting actual game balance.

This is why I can't take this thread seriously. Read the second to last paragraph.

[Shialan]

Yeah, and if not for people crying about "unfair advantage" and demanding SE to outright hunt down these players, we wouldn't even have the need for this "discussion" and his clarification.



Every single user of any tool accepts that this is against the TOS. They understand and also accept that they can get banned at any time for this. Especially if they use them to harass other players. So, they are doing their thing and don't mind how other players play this game. But then there come people who see others using these tools and demand SE to hunt them down and punish them. Which is something they don't want and will do. And still, there are people creating these threads and comments saying they want SE to exactly do that.

[Caitlyn]

There's always a grey area.

- Using reshade is a mod but it really only changes hues and some graphical artifacts (aliasing, etc.). Is it a cheat?

Reshade is neither a grey area nor a mod (its a post-processing injector). Its officially allowed to use it (from 2013):

Utilizing such a tool would not violate any agreements customers have with Square Enix, and we don't plan on doing anything to restrict users from accessing it.

However, we advise that players use this at their own risk. Square Enix does not regulate the content of the aforementioned add-on and will not be responsible for any damage or losses resulting from its use.